There’s an interesting thread going on over at websleuths that DramaQueen copied and pasted in one of our threads. Several of our users have requested this be a thread of it’s on for other input.
http://67.19.158.169/forums/showthread.php?p=3062986
Originally Posted by Meemom
Katie Sue R., an employee of Sawgrass Apartments, stalled and then flatly refused to give LE an interview regarding whether she knew of any friends Casey Anthony had at Sawgrass.
After refusing to give an interview, she advised Corp Eric Edwards that Vicky A. lived at Sawgrass complex and was “a good friend of Casey’s.”
See Doc 5, page 1Katie S is/was good friend of Vicky A.
Katie S is possibly an employee of Sawgrass (looking for documentation of this- anyone have quick access?)Vicky is 21 and has a 3 year old child
Listed as a Daycare Teacher
Went to Colonial High
Listed as going to Valencia
Friends with the Lake Vaj group
Myspace/facebook has friends all inter-connected:
Iassen
Melina
Jeff H
Dante
Matt C
sean DVicky has friends/relatives named…
RAQUEL
JASMIN
VICTOR
SAMANTHAThese last four names are the unique names KC used in her ZFG story. Coincidence?!
H/T Meemom, good work.
Filed under: Casey Anthony, caylee anthony , Casey Anthony, caylee anthony, sawgrass apartments
I have to say that is very very intresting, maybe this infi LE knows but is keeping close to the vest ?
#1Laura……
I certainly hope that LE knows about it!!!
Yourturn- TY for making this thread, this is very interesting info.
im sure they do but I would love to know more
i got 10 minutes then I have to leave for work, (sad face) I will Biaez and Bulldog at court today.
DQ posted this a few minutes ago
Here is a link to Vicky Alemans my space
profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=138228460
how would we go about finding out more about this?
I want NG to discuss this info, Baez would LOVE that for his defense!!!!
Does anyone know if Vicky or Katie are on the Prosecution’s list of witnesses? If so, this could very well be their connection to the case, as well as part of the information LE has kept to themselves.
#1Laura- I have not read the docs where some of this info should be. Perhaps someone needs to sift through more of the docs for such. Zak loves that type work!!!
Here is the link to document in which Katie Sue Robinson refused to be interviewed but offered up Vicky as a friend of KC and suggested that she be contacted by LE:
media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoveryset5/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2501-2550_R_Page_01.htm
It is no secret that Casey’s lies were somewhat little truths twisted. Everything she has told anyone has had some sort of truth to it. It’s just a matter of filling in the blanks, and untwisting the lies from the truths. I feel sorry for anyone who ever met Casey, as they seem to all be part of this whole “conspiracy theory” of hers!
Ok I gotta go girls !bb tonight
I looked at a witness list dated Nov. 18th, not sure if that is the latest list. But, did not observe either name.
#1- Take Care!!
Krisam,
I do not think this the latest witness list. It has not been released yet but had grown to about 140 witnesses.
I wish it was out.
Needs to be told to Orange County Law Enforcement as a tip with all this info ASAP
I am scanning documents to determine other information on Katie R and Vickie.
There may not be whole lot in this doc. dump.
Yourturn,
Are you wanting the link to the conversation that is going on over there. Am I confused ?
http://67.19.158.169/forums/showthread.php?p=3062986
wow, that is some very interesting information. I was wondering…are the anthony’s back in their home? I know they were staying at a hotel, but then heard that they now have security and cameras at their home and that it was torn apart by the investigators.
First of all the defence can still claim the babysitter…Casey told her mom that Zanny had a key to their house! So if anything was taken out they could say it was Zanny. And that Zanny is framing her! However, the only thing George and Cindy need to realize now is that Casey said she wasn’t talking because of fear for Caylee…well Caylee’s body is found, so the threat is gone! So now she must speak! There is no reason for her to keep quiet now!!!! And Cindy should say exactly that to her daughter.
That is why I am really praying that there is a direct link to the body and to Casey..there has got to be 0 doubts!!! Like casey herself stated, “As soon as Caylee is found, everything will come together”
When do you all think they will release the info about the identity of the body?
youngmom- Good Point, the threat is gone, now please tell all KC!!!!
Someone should email this new info to LP if they are a member. I am not a great fan of his, but would love for him to discuss this on NG.
Vicky seems to have the credentials that KC seemed to thrive, like being in college with an associates degree, employed, great mom, seems to have things together.
Make sure you call it in using the crimeline number, and not 911, that way you might be able to get the reward!
That is very interesting. I also think that Annie’s interview pulls it all together. I think she somehow (perhaps unknowingly) supplied the ZG info to Casey. Right now seems as though ZG is very much just a coincidence but I suspect it’s not so much.
Look at some of the names above- then go to Vicky’s MySpace page then find one of her friends named Vic– I don’t know– my head is spinning
As Padilla and other experts have stated on NG, KC uses little bits of truth mixed with great lies.
FLMom- LOL
I doubt any normal human being would think “reward” after finding a body or anything of that nature! It’s the last thing on someone’s mind. Who cares about rewards?!?!?!
If Katie worked at Sawgrass and was friends with Vicky, Vicky may have told about a ZG looking at apt. 210, not knowing she was giving vital info to a sociopath. KC used a little bit of many people to create her kidnapping story, in hopes of keeping LE in a spin.
DQ~What a find ! Girl you had your sleuthing hat on again !
So very interesting that Vicky’s friends and relatives became ZG’s daughters, sister and father in this nightmare !
Also Vicky has traces of Casey’s life and lies all mixed in:
Vicky is 21 and has a 3 year old child =Casey 22 with a then 2 year old child
Listed as a Daycare Teacher= Casey listed herself as a nanny on her new resume
Went to Colonial High = Casey went here
Listed as going to Valencia= Casey SAID she went here
My goodness…Casey’s just pulled bits and pieces from her friend’s lives and gave herself a new identity…then she gave the phantom ZG one as well !!!
Does anyone know the date of this myspace page ???
youngmom- Money Talks!!! If someone had info on Caylee’s whereabouts, the money may have been the incentive. This is why every LE agency has tiplines for info/rewards offered these days.
Sway- This was a great find of DQs’. I want this out in the media!!!
Krisam–I would totally agree that Vicky is the one giving Casey the info if she were on a witness list but her not being on it keeps leading me to Annie. There’s some very telling information in Annie’s interview and I wish they would just release it already.
youngmom,
I doubt that the meter reader is thinking about a reward, either, but he has cracked this case wide open and I think it would be appropriate that he receives a reward. The finding of Caylee’s remains have certainly changed the direction that Casey’s trial is going to go.
Krisam- I agree with that 100%. But I think that’s the insentive for a live person. Once a body is found, I really don’t think that whoever found the body is thinking reward!
BJ- agreed!! LP, pay up!!
Me too Krisam…this stuff is very telling …as to where some of the phony names came from and how Casey’s mind works !!!
could someone post the link to the live court hearing taking place today? thanks
LE was offering reward money to any tip that leads to Caylee’s find (dead or alive), but they had to call the crimeline.
BJ- The sad facts about this case is that anyone involved, directly or indirectly gets trouble there way. I don’t think he wants publicity or anything…personally I think if he’s given anything, the Anthonys will be up his a$$ with lawyers and such!
Sway- Does anyone here have a direct contact # for NG or LP?
I looked at Vicky’s profile I belive she is latina and the name Zanaida is spanish I see were Casey used the names of her friends well not friends anymore (as with Amy) and linked and weaved all the names together wow!!! that needs to be mentioned to Oranje County Detectives!!
Krisam, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:43 pm Said:
BJ- agreed!! LP, pay up!!
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LP can afford more than the 5 to 10K that he mentioned, too. Do they not realize the importance of the finding of the body?
just me… what has you spinning about the guy named vic on her myspace?
Paula~
WESH.com will offer a livestream of the hearing at 2 p.m.
Krisam I have LP cell phone
Krisam- I was not aware of that! And yes I do agree that he should be given something for breaking this case wide open! Hopefully if he is, NOONE will ever know about it and he could go on living his life without the media storm. I’m sure after this he will never be the same.
http://www.cfnews13.com/default.aspx
Does that mean LE isn’t going to pay? I too hope that the meter reader is rewarded. Not that he’s thinking about that or that he cares one way or the other but he did blow this case wide open, if even accidentally.
Krisam…Maria does ! 1:46 pm post
Ya’ll know, I surely hope LE has this info, but there is always a slight chance they do not. If the media were to report this, then LE would know. Or, someone can directly call Orange County LE. Sway???
just have to get this all out.
after cursorily watching cindy anthony at the bond hearing and her police interview, i have some thoughts – bear with me – my impressions:
kc was woefully unprepared for life. at 22, an adult woman, she has never supported herself, never traveled, never had her own space, never got an education – the list goes on – no life experience whatsoever of being an adult. she is basically stuck in a teenage life – a selfish teen. with the exception of caylee, she has had no life experience of being an adult – none at all.
now with caylee, her experience again is that of a protected teen, her mother supports, cares for, pays for and conducts both the life of a small child and a grown child.
i don’t believe that kc did anything malicious to caylee – i think an accident happened that would reveal her bad actions and she tried desperately to cover it up – thinking as she went.
unfortunately, her actions are that of a selfish, inexperienced teen. we’ve all heard the stories of teens getting pregnant and covering it up for the duration, and kc did the same – continuing with trying to cover up the accident. i do feel sorry for cindy – i think she knows how ignorant her daughter is about life and feels responsible for it – this was being revealed to her in counseling.
kc was severely maladjusted to life and lied when she knew her real life would reveal this. lying is second nature to her and even though a lot of ppl have known she lies, noone ever called her on it, leaving her to believe she was actually getting away with it.
i feel terrible for that little moppet – so adorable and sweet. i also feel terrible for kc’s family – they created her and then tried to cover for her.
so sad.
i don’t believe that kc did anything
Great Job Drama Queen & Meemom!!!
Wow, I wasn’t going to check the site today!!! I’m glad I changed my mind. Well, if this is indeed true it just goes to show she can’t really think up lies all that well.
She continues to use these partial truths in her lies. She takes things that are real places or names and uses or twists them around. Which makes sense with people who lie. Thanks for finding it DQ.
I should no better than to try and stay away from you guys! You are on it 24/7 up in here!
DEFINITELY needs to be given as a tip to law enforcement – its very significant info
youngmom,
Then someone should give a reward to him with no fanfare. It could be given not for finding the body but for helping put Casey away (fingers crossed) for the rest of her life.
mermaider- it may be nothing, just the name Vic and the link to Vicky having a friend named Vic, then the gun comment on his MySpace. Like I said maybe it’s nothing, I just thing there is a whole web we don’t even know (stating the obvious)
Maria- You should call LP and advise him to look at this info.
I was just on the my space page for victoria and here are just a couple of interesting comments from her freinds:
This Time Imperfect :
hey whats up? Ever fix the headlights on your found on road dead? i meen Focus?
Iassen :
In the night, I hear ‘em talk,
The coldest story ever told.
Somewhere far along this road, he lost his soul.
To a woman so heartless…
Here is the link to the current my space page:
profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=138228460
Has Katie S. denied knowing or having met Casey?
If not… if Katie and Vicky are friends, and Vicky and Casey are friends, and if Vicky lived at Sawgrass… is it possible that Casey was over at Vicky’s and they went to the leasing office to visit Katie. They ended up hanging out for a bit, during which time ZG came in to look at apartments. Since people who work in apartment offices deal with dozens of prospective residents every day, this is a detail that Katie could easily have forgotten.
But, I’ve always been under the impression that Casey was IN the leasing office (for some reason) either when or shortly after ZG showed up there. Whether she just caught a glimpse of the sign-in sheet or overheard the woman say her name, it’s the only way she could have made that otherwise coincidental connection.
Also, I think since Casey weaves “bits of truth” into her lies so she can keep track of them, it makes sense that she would use Vicky’s family as a foundation for facts about ZG, if she was with Vicky when she “discovered” ZG… the connection there would make for a very easy “bookmark” so-to-speak for keeping track of that bit of the lie.
~ ALW
P.S. Who does LE refer to?
J- I’m not comprehending a few things you wrote….mainly that you don’t think Casey did anything!!! Are you buying the nanny story???? How do you explain the searches on her computer?!?!?! How do you explain partying after her daughter is missing?!!? My goodness, I have a 10 year old and when we lost our rabbit, the child couldn’t do anything buy search for the oor anilmal for weeks and weeks!!! So I don’t quite get where you’re coming from!
I respectfully disagree j.
If you accidently harm someone you love…and this has been shown before. You call for help or LE
Like parents who accidently run over their kids. You most likely will not go to jail, the list is long of examples…people that accidently overdose on cold meds, vitamins, people who roll over their babies in bed, people (like me) who have a child with autism…my son got out the apt. door and traveled 2 blocks while I slept and ended up at a Burger King, no chrges filed, he was found and returned by Metro Police…he was a lucky one, several have drowned or been hit by cars. Being a young uneducated mother would only help her case.
So I really don’t think an accidental death was the case, sorry to disagree.
I agree ty kris … The names of Casey’s so called friends should be told to Orange County becuase I see that they are all interconnected and this information Casey used in her lies and murder of Caylee . Casey has no alibi and if Oranje County is aware of all this they will know if Casey is still lying using the names of her old friends to make them all the blame.
maria- Will you please contact LP?
Krisam~Just an FYI~I’m still searching……….
j–Who, at 22 has life experience? Life experience not requisite to raise a child using some common sense. There are zero excuses for Casey, accident or not. There are 16 year old girls raising children all over the place. Lack of experience and poor upbringing do not a murderer make.
Orange County Sheriff’s Office
2500 W. Colonial Drive
Orlando, FL 32804
OCSO Main Office: 407-254-7000
Crimeline: 800-423-TIPS
FBI: 407-875-9976
is casey’s myspace page still up and running?
nvermind i found it… there are a lot of old comments on this vicky girls page by someone who has deleted their account.
but casey’s is still up and running.
So thats the possible link:
But I can’t discount Richard Grund’s interview. I don’t know why is was so specific about Zenaida G. as far back when Casey was 9mos old.
docstoc.com/docs/2810979/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-001
youngmom, it will all come out exactly what happended but I do understand what J. means.
How do the teens go back to the prom after giving birth and killing the baby? It is unbelievable but it happens.
I think there was anncidental death and Casey just rolled with it and we have what we have today.
Vicki Aleman was on yesterday morning’s In Session. I didn’t pay attention as I should have. But I saw a pic of her and her hair was just like Casey’s. I had to do a double take. She said that Casey was an average student at Colonial High and that she was not involved in sports. Being the mom of a 3 year old she was very upset about this because she doesn’t want people to think that young moms like her give their child anything to put them to sleep.
sorry – have to clarify – the last sentence was unfinished. she’s obviously *maladjusted* hence why she didn’t call 911 or do anything normal ppl would do.
my feeling is that the covering she did was to hide the fact that the death was caused by something untoward that she did – whether it was by leaving the poor girl in a hot car or something else.
i obviously think she needs to sit in jail for the rest of her natural life – i guess what i was trying to get across was a portrait of who she is and why this is happening. mostly that i don’t think she’s an ‘evil muderess’ – just a severely maladjusted person who cannot survive in the world by herself.
watching her poor mum trying *so* hard to protect her still and control a situation which is uncontrollable – ca needs to realize that she needs to let go – she can’t fix this one for kc.
j, I agree. We have to remember that Cindy called police on her own daughter. I think this case is less complicated than it appears.
Accidental death & coverup by young mom. But we will see.
this is very interesting I am sorry I don’t know more about this to input more
new thread
j–I’m going to respectfully disagree again. I think the very last thing CA needs to do is let go. In fact, I think she needs (for her sake and Casey’s) to do the exact opposite. I think she needs to let Casey know that she loves her unconditionally. She can be angry with Casey, she can refuse to visit Casey but she loves her and she should. She needs to wrap her arms around Casey and start the healing process for her own sanity. No one would hate the Anthony’s for acknowledging that their daughter committed a most heinous crime and still stand by her because they love her.
j -
It could have been an accident. I think kc is more afraid of her mom, than LE. She couldn’t even admit to CA that she was 7 mos pregnant. Very obvious, and she still refused to tell. I’m sure CA knew she was pregnant. I think CA enjoyed watching Casey squirm.
Thats how much Casey fears her mother’s wrath.
Imagine if something bad had happened to Caylee under kc’s watch. That would make Cindy right.
See you are an unfit mother…. I think kc and CA had a ongoing feud pertaining to the care of Caylee. To Cindy, kc couldn’t do anything right. So who knows,
would kc go this far to hide an accident? imo maybe.
Tracy-
i think thats exactly what cindy needs to do. If cindy, did just that, I think casey would confess. Her mom’s forgiveness it the most important thing to casey.
even if cindy doesn’t forgive her, for God’s sake…LIE.
tracy – i respectfully agree with you that ca needs to continue to love her daughter – my point was that watching her at the bond hearing and her interviews – she needs to stop trying to paint an untrue picture of her daughter – the one where kc is a perfect mother, daughter – reading the bible and thoughtfully mothering her friends. not touching drugs or alcohol.
it’s just not true and if she lets go and lets the story tell itself it would be better. she doesn’t have to stop loving her daughter – just stop trying to fix this for her – it’s too big.
j–I agree. Hopefully, it will fix itself. Truth be told. I don’t know if CA is capable.
I do not think that Casey kept her pregnancy secret for 7 months from Cindy. Cindy is far too nosey for that to be possible. I think when family members inquired Cindy lied. I think it was another of Casey and Cindy’s “dirty little secrets”. Cindy is a nurse and was probably able to acquire prenatal vitamins for Casey and kept a watchful eye on her pregnancy until she thought it necessary (required) that Casey receive an ultrasound.
Someone on another thread a week or so ago said that the “other ID” pulled from Casey’s wallet (the night LE was at her house investigating) had a name on it – or that Lee had seen a name on it. Anyone recall what it was? Would be very strange to find out it was Vicky Aleman or some incarnation of her name and Casey’s like, Casey Aleman or Vicky Anthony.
once again CA got rid of it!
I just finished watching the live hearing. The judge denied all of the defense team’s requests.
What does new thread mean?
I think the biggest lie Cindy ever told was saying that her daughter was a good mother. How could she say that? Wasn’t she seeking custody of Caylee? Wasn’t it Cindy who called 911? Why is she lying now about how she feels about her daughter? That is strange to me. Even Casey’s friends said her mom was on her all the time. Cindy calls up Ryan P. and tells him don’t trust my daughter, she lies and she’s a thief.
What kind of mother does this?? And then does a 180 degree turn on kc. All of a sudden, Casey is supermom. Its such a pathetic attempt to cover up something that doesn’t need to be covered. It makes more sense to tell the truth.
I agree with you Dee.
Curious D- tha apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!!!!!
Even George was in complete shock of his wife’s assesment to LE about Casey. He knew from the start that she was doing a cover-up, and he just called it denial!
Mary,
All I can remember, was the first name was Amanda.
I think I have it somewhere, as soon as I find it, I’ll post it. It may be in the CA interview with LE. when CA tells them about the things she found in kc’s belongings while searching in the garage. Hope this helps.
New Thread = A new post of information which will have a “new thread” for us to post our thoughts on.
so this is a thread that your reading… a new one means to go to the home page and see a new post which you can read and post comments on.
Tracy-
I agree. But what kind of idiot mother brings her very pregnant daughter to a family wedding and denies she’s pregnant. I mean, did Casey HAVE to go to wedding. CA looked like a fool. She’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer either and George standing there, saying nothing. Makes no sense.
I’m stumped.
Youngmom,
Yes, I’m sure there is going to be that whole “Zanny had a key and framed her story,” BUT, I think if that was the case, it would seem to me that there would be some kind of evidence of her being there. Fibers, hairs, fingerprints, anything not accounted for by others in the house. Maybe that’s one reasons for ALL of the vacs coming out of the house.
Plus, wouldn’t Zanny having a key contradict Casey’s “fear” for her family? The jailhouse tapes have her telling the Ants that Zanny did have a key, but didn’t sound urgent about it, like, you better have the locks changed. Even the Ants didn’t seem too concerned. I’d be pissed knowing the person who supposedly kidnapped my child/grandchild AND was threatening my family had a damn key to my house! Seems to me that little factoid would have shown up in some of those interviews.
Kittypink,
Thanks for the info. Now, let’s see how long it takes Franken-Baez to add that to his list of whines and how he just doesn’t understand what they could be thinking.
Hey, maybe Stickland is really Zanny…I should email Franken-Baez ASAP!
Well said… Just another hole in her thoughts… She stressed that “Zanny” had a key.
yet if there were such a threat why not tell them to change the locks… Hahahah…
She is so DONE!!!!!!
To J,
I don’t feel sorry for Casey, not one bit. “Woefully unprepared for life” ? Please tell me you’re kidding.
I know people that were beaten and molested and severely neglected as children. They STILL managed to grow up (somehow) with decent moral fiber, and worked their asses off to get an education and be self-supporting. Casey was a kid with every advantage and had NO ONE else to blame for her selfishness. Having Caylee did nothing to change her life. I don’t feel sorry for her.
As for it being an ‘accident’ that Cindy helped cover up… I call bullsh!t on that too. In this country every day, accidents happen to people’s children right in their own backyards, and the parents dont bag the body and throw it in the woods! SOMEONE in that family should have had the wherewithall to REPORT what they knew (the strangling fight/domestic violence! etc)
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Jul 21, 2008 8:56 PM
when you want me to change your brakes?
from vickys myspace!!
didnt casey say something about Zanny having brake problems with the car?
Does anyone know where this information about Casey/Sawgrass Apartments was gleaned from? Did it come from Vicky Aleman’s myspace page?
I have always been curious, at what point did KC tell CA that ZG was babysitting for her? KC claimed that ZG had been her nanny for about 1 year or so. Has CA confirmed this? Has KC been talking about ZG for the past year and a half or did ZG’s name come up just after Caylee went missing? I am confused. Can anyone help me on this issue, please?!
Also, I find it hard to believe that CA believed that there was a nanny. I mean, c’mon, as much as CA did for Caylee she at some point would have picked Caylee up from ZG’s or dropped her off. Especially when KC was “supposedly” working all of those late hours.
I know that there was never a ZG as a Nanny but I just find it hard to believe that CA would believe KC on this issue or even bring it up to LE. That’s why I think CA & GA are hiding something. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
dont remember george telling crazy in the jailhouse video, we can all go into protective custody, we need you to co-operate, and cindy saying, once caylee is found you can tell everyone what you know. well, she has not co-operated, because they arent in protective custody. and now that baby is found so please do tell. what you know. we are all waiting.
I hope someone is taking screen shots of this stuff because Vicky could delete it once she finds out everyone is looking at it.
Wow…Interesting. Don’t know if someone mentioned this already but I found the page too-search Victoria Aleman-Orlando.
On her top friends, what do you know, there is Iassen. That is name is way to uncommon to just miss.
To CuriousDee-CA was in absolute denial of Casey being prego up until the end. At least…she insisted to everyone around her that Casey was not preg. Went as far as saying “One must have sex to get pregnant and Casey’s not having sex.” In the emails between Rick Plesea and their mother-it’s mentioned as well. Either Cindy is slow. Very slow, or like Casey, tells herself one thing, then actually believes it. Scary..
hahaha, I wonder if she knows we’re thumbing through her myspace? It’s kinda funny.
she doesn’t look 5′7 and 140 in my opinion but everything else fits…
I’m new, mind filling me on what “KC” and “LE” stand for???
what is the myspace link?
DQ:
another comment i found on Victoria’s myspace
“sorry i couldnt go to orlando! that doesnt mean i dont love you guys lol!!!! tell brandon happy birthday for me!! ily “”
wasnt casey so upset at one party about a guy named brandon? Yet another link
does anyone know what or what happend that she was so upset by him?
casey and law enforcement
Rheana –
LE = Law Enforcement
KC = Casey (Anthony)
Hope this helps!
mo, pregnancy by him & abortion
suzee- thanks!!!
Oh wow-and Vicky has has a little boy-remember Jeff having a “son”
mdtn- KC had been saying Zanny was her nanny ever since her friend Lauren stopped babysitting Caylee and the Grund’s were “tired” of watching her. Which was when she was about 6 mo. old as far as I know…so she had been using this nanny’s name for about 2 years.
Am I right?
You folks should check out some of the photo’s vicky has on her site and especially st. patricks day. very familiar faces around.
It is something.
suzee- didn’t she claim it was a miscarriage?
btw, that little boy is pretty darn cute!
This is all very much the zanny story.
Hair straightening and all.
Jessica, oops! losing track
I will be back in a little while.
Thanks for everything!
does anybody notice the “KatieRoo this is for you” blog entry? Is this the Katie?
Jessica –
Yes, I think you are right. That is what I just don’t get. How could she have used this name for 2 years and CA or GA NEVER meet this person? I am telling you, they are hiding something. It makes NO sense whatsoever to me.
DQ a few more comments i find odd:
AND CREEPY!!!!!!!
this was found from a comment made on august 15th on victorias myspace – i went to the myspace of “a man duhhh” (comment on aug 15th) and on this myspace page was a comment made by victoria on august 15th to a man duhhh
Aug 14, 2008 6:04 PM
So im starting this new babysitters club..i hear there is good money in it.. care to join?? hahahaha
heres the link:
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=7833711&MyToken=00104e66-d676-4496-86ab-bba3a465a551
What Katie are you speaking of? “The Katie”???
So this Vicki person, KC just made the Zanny story around her or do you think she knows something more too?
Victoria’s Myspace has a blog entry on August 13 which is a youtube video of Daryl Worley singing…”Awful Beautiful Life”…
Didn’t KC get a tatoo that meant “the beautiful life”?
victoria’s email -vitypie@aol.com
and start our own investigation!
lets email her !
Do you have to have a myspace acct to view this? I just tried clicking that link and it wants me log in.
LuLu -
yes you need a myspace account to view the comments / pictrues on myspace
Salati, Dante – Has been casual friend of Casey’s for 8 years; he has lived in the Sawgrass Apartments (same apartment) for three years. . Worked at Don Reid Ford; quit as of June 17 (last day). Worked at Muscle Cars and Handlebars on Orange and Landstreet, but posted on July 13, that the job at Muscle Cars did not work out, and he would be moving to another shop, but not sure where
does this seem weird to anyone else that he quit on the 17th of June? what is with casey and sawgrass apts???
also, i have been reading the comments on Vicky’s myspace and she is very much a party girl!!
from amanda’s myspace
Aug 4, 2008 7:50 PM
yea yea whatever.
If you get finished with your clients anytime soon, I might come thru and pick up my money
Vicky went to Tampa for the 4th of July, didn’t Casey say Caylee was with the babysitter in Tampa at that time??
So, when was the last time that Vicky accessed her myspace page?
Re: Dante – I find that no more coincidental than Jesse’s leaving OPD on Jun 24th.
May Sawgrass was nothing more than a big chicken ranch!
FLMomOf2
today
Your Turn you’re a genius!
InPrayer—I agree….He Rocks……and so does Truth…
FLmom -
“So, when was the last time that Vicky accessed her myspace page?”
Not sure if you asked this but the last time was today Dec 16th – surely it will be private soon.
I tried the other link to Vicky’s page and it was just black and white stripes, then my computer locked up.
Sigh.
Thank you all for sharing what you see. And like someone else said, screenshot it! It may not be there tomorrow.
I seriously would not doubt that there was all kinds of stuff going on at Sawgrass. Maybe even in empty apts. Esp if someone had access to keys.
From all of her pictures on myspace and her son it just seems so similar to what Casey was telling everyone where Caylee was with ZG, from being in Tampa and sea world and Disney
i don’t believe that kc did anything
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OMG … someone did not really say this ?????????
DRAMA QUEEN: You are gooooooooood…….if you are not an investigator already, you should!!
Thanks for all the great effort, enjoy reading your posts and contribution….
HLN covering case right now… if no one said
arleen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what????? and why???
oops guess i was too late announcing it.
bombshell: too bad I don’t ahve access to those news right now, this sucks….:(
I think Casey was imitating that Vicky girl’s life, you think…..?
The part about this case that intrigues me the most is about ZG and the Sawgrass Apartments.
Casey is a natural born liar and now it appears she is a killer too but I need to know the answers as to how she got the info, how she came up with the story and why ? She has litterly ruined a few families with her lies.
tui …j, on December 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pm Said:
just have to get this all out.
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and he/she ended it with : i don’t believe that kc did anything
tui, on December 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pm Said:
I think Casey was imitating that Vicky girl’s life, you think…..?
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Is there anything Casey has not tried or thought of ?
I wonder how much of all this LE already knows. It’s been said numerous times that Casey instills a bit of truth in her lies. I didn’t realize just how much.
LE know more than we will probably ever know and KC all figured out.
BUT I think they dropped the ball as far as finding Caylee. That area should have been on high alert to be searched as soon as water receeded.
IMO
Can you imagine sitting in your house waiting on LE or someone else to find your dead child , knowing all the time where her body was but not doing a thing .
This is one sick puppy !!!
How many times did she drive by it ?
Glance down there ?
Someone said the lE and the protestors were parking right by where Caylee had been dumped ?
everyone, LE already has this info, contrary to poupular belief, LE is smarter than anyone could ever imagine. I took the officers exam and interview and was amazed at the info LE got out of me without me having given away anything. (not that i had anything to hide of course) lol.
Remember, alot of people (high powered lawyers mes and public) critisized LE for stopping the search and charging her with murder 1 without a body. people were saying go investigate the mall sighting, but LE already knew she was dead.
Arleen,
You mention how could she just sit there in her house knowing where Caylee was while everyone was frantic around her. That in itself is bad enough, but the other night, I heard L Padilla say that during those days that he was there she pranced around like she was in “cheerleader camp.” She cooked, flirted w/ Rob, yakked with Tracy, made brownies, stayed online, all the while doing that butt shake of hers around anyone who was there.
I hope the prosecution brings up all of the behaviors in total. Especially if the defense side only has the attention seeking Lee, Baden’s wife, Spitz et all. I think ever since seeing OJ get off the first time, people really hate these “experts” just popping in and out and getting face time just simply saying “Well, it could be human and it couldn’t be. It may be but it may not be.” That up against the mountains that WE could put together on this board has to fry this witch over and over!!
I know y’all have been checking out the myspace…do you realize that every friend’s friend’s friends are high school friends of Casey’s…..or graduated a couple of years before or after…..V@L3R!3…Valerie Muller…Fits Zanny description pretty close. She is 24…Mel is her friend that looks like her, and she is 27. Kspring..also went to school with Casey. Jeff Hopkins on all of these people’s myspace. Then you have Alex. He is friends of friends of friends. Almost all of them from the Orlando area…almost, a good majority, went to school with Casey….and A.N.N.I.E. Looks like Annie and then of course Dante…Didn’t realize Lake Vaj was 39 and had tattooed fingers….This myspace page is a wealth of info…lots of the friends are private, but a majority are not. Very, very interesting the similiarities…and of course, there are some references to the Ford Focus and the poems of cold-hearted women…etc…
I am in Criminal justice and I know , as many people who called in knows,… There should be no question to there was NO nanny …CASEY DIDN’T HAVE A JOB why would she need or how could she afford a nanny?? her parents need to step out of casey’s deliousions. if you step back and pick this apart as i have learned in school,, there is no doubt that she killed that little girl.
Thought I would let you know that the comment from LASSEN are actually song lyrics.. On her Myspace
Has anyone got on the ball and called the Tipline?! I live in Seattle so this would be hard for me to get involved. I was so happy to see someone had the same idea as me regarding the Sawgrass apts and how Casey would have got Zenaida’s info.
Nice work on finding the dirty laundry!! And it definitely needs to hang out to dry for the whole world to see. Please keep us posted. MySpace can unveil many things people don’t take into consideration. Surely her page will be private soon, I can’t imagine how many hits it has had today.
Who’s taking the screen shots??
I was looking at Vicki’s (the girl from Sawgrass) myspace profile and if you read in her comments one of her friends ask her if she had got her car fixed and happens it is a focus
Here is the post on her myspace
Oct 21 2008 7:10 PM
hey whats up? Ever fix the headlights on your found on road dead? i meen Focus?
Kaptain Killer Katie Konundrum
I just went to the myspace link for Victoria A. and was reading posts from friends. Seems she drives a Focus:
Oct 22 2008 12:10 AM
hey whats up? Ever fix the headlights on your found on road dead? i meen Focus?
Gwen — ha ha – we’re thinking alike I guess!
Casey had a couple of boyfriends that were cops. She could have been driving through Sawgrass and saw Zanieda’s vehicle there, and believing that she lived there, wrote the license number down and had one of her cop boyfriends run a make on it. Didn’t Zanieda say that although she didn’t live there, she had been there before looking for an apartment???
wonder if OCSO has any openings????
Here is what I believe concerning Richard Grund saying that Casey mentioned Zenaida when he asked her if she had found a sitter. CA held a meeting at the house for everyone connected to Casey. At this meeting Zenaida’s name came up as the sitter Zanny. Richard Grund picked this up and when he requested to meet with LE, he repeated the name CA gave. Richard Grund talked to LE at the time of the first search, meeting LE at the command post. He was on NG prior to that and said that Casey called the new sitter Zanny. No one knew of a Zenaida prior to CA’s meeting at the house with everyone. They only knew of a Zanny or a nanny.
To clarify-the night of the get together at CA’s house was the night of Casey’s arrest.
hi im a member of web sleuths and have been follwing the case since the beginning as well as most of u have read all the documents etc in this case and i have contacted the LE on his cell with information i came upon back in november,who is personally handling the case . I just think u all are correct about vicky and katie. everything check out and all the similarities and connections are there. have u heard about kio marie ? she was mentioned in the case but the info i called LE about was what i foudn out about her.
LuLu said:
I seriously would not doubt that there was all kinds of stuff going on at Sawgrass. Maybe even in empty apts. Esp if someone had access to keys.
Mo posted that Victoria posted on my space: Aug 14, 2008 6:04 PM
So im starting this new babysitters club..i hear there is good money in it.. care to join?? hahahaha
Drama Queen posted: Katie Sue Robinson refused to be interviewed but offered up Vicky as a friend of KC
Sherry C posted: Vicki Aleman was on yesterday morning’s In Session. Being the mom of a 3 year old she was very upset about this because she doesn’t want people to think that young moms like her give their child anything to put them to sleep.
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the wheels are spinning – what if there was a “baby sitting club” in sawgrass apartments where they drugged their children so they would sleep so they could all party. – especially if they ran around in the same circles. They have something to hide!!!!! they might no be involved in Caylee’s actual death but LE should look at what might have led up to it.
Great sluething, wondering! Now you have me wondering…
Share this on the NG thread where everyone is at, if you haven’t already. This is a good connection theory!
okay, Princessa, you have me intrigued. Do I have to go to WS to find out about Kiomarie?
Why would anybody give Casey names of people for Sawgrass? I mean what did they think she needed that kind of information for?
No who’s Kio Marie?
I was scrolling through Vicky A.’s myspace page and I found it a little interesting that a friend commented, talking about phones, and mentioned a blackjack that Vicky ‘used’ to have. And Casey lost the blackjack with all of Zani’s info on it etc..
Perhaps just a coincidence but my eyebrow raised at that.
Don’t they have specifics that Casey told people about the Zeinaida Gonzalez off the guest registry card she completed that prove she did mean the one who is suing her for slander?
I have always felt that Casey had a connection with an employee of Sawgrass…otherwise, how could she have gotten Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez’s information? For the same apartment she was actually looking at? There’s NO WAY that she coincidentally thought up that name as the person who lived in that empty apartment on her own.
She had access to the office, or to a friend who worked there who either left her sitting there where she could see paperwork on a desk or was able to rifle through files…or was helping Casey work up a story to cover killing Caylee and is part of the cover up. If I was this gal, I’d be very, very concerned right now.
You know that the authorities have figured this out a long time ago.
Did Casey always refer to her nanny as Zanny even pre-dating the information about Zeinaida at Sawgrass? Was she stalking her?
I’m sorry but what an idiot Cindy is thinking Zanny is code for something. Oh yeah that makes sense when your daughter gave specific information leading the lady who filled out an interest card for that apartment.
Casey must have thought the lady ended up taking that unit.
grains of truth… kc supposedly always incorporated at least small grains of truth.
searched victoria’s myspace photos (need to be a member to see all photos). the st paddy’s day pics include the blonde spikey hair guy from the 4th of july. also there are recent photos of victoria’s child at Disney World and Sea World…… hmm did Casey just latch onto those phrases?.. did Caylee attend the parks before she went missing? Hopefully LE will contact Victoria… she looks like Casey: tatoos, partying, drinking, young mother.. some type of sawgrass connection……
link to current my space page:
profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=138228460
has anyone the theory GA DUMP THE BODY there AFTER HE FOUNd it coming back from tow yard
or why do there need that deal thry want?
my hubby says he think lee is the babies daddy
and a great defence will be the nigerians that scammed GA came back after GA reported them lol
I have been coming to this site every day for about 3 months now and reading just about every comment that anyone has ever made. This is my first time posting. I was just reading all of your comments here and you guys are just one of the smartest group of people I have ever come across! I was looking at Victoria’s myspace page and there was one person in particualr who kept catching my eye. Not really sure why but they did post a lot of comments on Victoria’s page. The name is myspace.com/redynes777. When I clicked on the picture which is of a man, a woman and 2 children it took me to her page (which is private) and has the following message at the top: “i will be deleting this myspace add my new 1 bc i aint hiding shit anymore…Thanks” I found this to be very interesting. Also if you go to Annie’s page I thought her heading was interesting also: “a.n.n.i.e is the happiest girl on earth!!![meet my friend karma. shes a bitch] “
Why would anybody give Casey names of people for Sawgrass? I mean what did they think she needed that kind of information for?
Journey- Identity theft.
I hope someone was taking screen shots because I just tried to get back on her page and it is now set to private!!
I had not thought of the babysitter club scenario before. interesting….. I did wonder about a possible internet porn or even housewife hookers ring there at sawgrass—so many of them seem connected—don’t know but, it’s something the pros might want to look at.
Hi! Haven’t been lurking here for a couple days and was shocked to see my Meemom WS post here as a thread…..wow, glad you all are also looking into this.
BUT, please let me clarify and give credit where due. I started the thread at WS cos I thought it deserved one for further investigation. The research quoted was done by others, not me. They deserve the upmost credit and respect for putting this together. It involved a lot of time consuming research on their parts!
Since then, Vicky’s myspace has gone private and Katie probably will soon……they both also have facebook pages, including photos of all the same gang of intertwined KC friends and acquintences.
I really think these girls have no direct involvement in poor Caylee’s death or KC diabolical coverup, I think their info was gleened as backfill for the imaginary “Zanny”.
Just wanted to say something about the comment on the “found on road dead..focus” comment that was left on Vicky’s page regarding getting the headlights fixed.
Rivalry between people who like Chevy vs. Ford, the Chevy lovers refer to Fords as Found On Road Dead or sometimes Fix Or Repair Daily. At least that’s the running jokes here in Indiana.
Also, I wanted to point out that there are a lot of people out there that think that KC’s referral to “Zanny the nanny” had something to do with giving Caylee doses of Xanax to make her either fall asleep or be quiet and subdued so she could party. There have been reports of Caylee being at parties and being able to sleep through anything, although I don’t know if this is true or not. Anyhow, I don’t know if she ever used the name “Zenaida” in the beginning to CA or anyone else, or just used the name “Zanny”, but I seem to remember that it was just “Zanny”. Maybe, if she was already premeditating the murder of Caylee (i.e: the google searches), she happened to be at the right place at the right time and the Zenaida that came in to the Sawgrass apartments seemed to be the perfect person/name to make up and use as the fictitious nanny. She went along using half truths and came up with a fictitious entity to pin things on.
Just reading this post…after a few hours sleep…FYI there is a TEXT message in the documents where KC is TEXTING “I can score Xanax from Annie”….Also, Annie had (don’t know if they are still there) very small and very stupid videos at youtube….user adowning04. Again, very very short, stupid…like drunken yelling for less than a 1min.
Someone please tell me why the Anthony’s never wanted to meet the baby sitter or call casey at work? cell phones usally need to be turned off at most jobs,,
My Mother always had to check out and meet my babysitters/day care centers.. I worked in an office and was constantly getting calls from Mother.. Is that so abnormal?
” i can hit up my friend annie for some xanax”
That keeps playing over and over in my head. I have a gut feeling that she was drugging the little girl with xanax…hence the name “zani” she used to refer to the babysitter. Xanax-Annie=Zani. No one has ever seen this babysitter….that’s because Casey was being selfish and immature wanting to party, and she put her daughter’s life at risk by doing so. Who’s to say she didnt accidentally OD her on xanax….then had to make it look like a kidnapping? I dunno….my gut instinct is that “zani” is what she dubbed it when she refered to as caylee’s whereabouts…..either way I hope that she got off on her clubbing/partying …..cause she is gonna grow old and die in a prison box. Hope it was worth it.
Get a life!!! You ppl had nothing better 2 do than prod at others ppl life? 2 me that is called living vicariously. Get ur own life.
i want 2 give u ll a new “thread” and a whole new and broad scenario to look at. Tha year kc graduated from Colonial hs probably baout 50% of the girls are young moms, have children, and like 2 party. Check all their myspace if u have the time.
ja–we are not living vicariously—we are all praying for justice for this murdered child. Attempting to make sense of just how someone could or would do such a thing.
Justice we all want but the “BS” you people come up with is sickening.
making up stories does not help in any way solving the problem.
Hey ja- I’ll get a “life” if you go back to elementary school and learn how to spell , punctuate and capitalize correctly. And by the way, WHAT exactly are you doing on this blog if it is a waste of time?
Now the stupid wrote! tell your mother to go back to school.
to theotherd: No need to be offensive. That shows how smart you really are.
My spelling might be bad but my sense of reallity surpass yours. Oh!!! and not to mention my education which I can already see you lack.
For someone who has a “life, you sure seem to be here a lot. I apologize. I will try to get a sense of “reallity” like you.
now that we all know ‘ja’ is Vicky..
did you have anything to do with caylees death?
“ja”, i don’t think that anybody was trying to imply that you, (i mean vicky) did anything wrong. Just stating how Casey has used the lives of her friends in her lies, which is sad for the people who she claimed were her friends. Because they have now all been brought into this horrible thing that she has done.
I am not vicky but I know 80% of the stuff you have been writing about is incorrect. I would search more about the facts before I would even dare to write about it. By the way I read your fantasies I can imagine most of you are as sick as KC if in fact she killed her baby.
Now go on believing I am vicky if that pleases you.
rose: Really, by far that is the most supid coment of all but you topped off with your question. hahahahah
I don’t think you can put any of us in the same catergory with Casey. I personally have a 10 year old who I love more than anything in this world. If someone had taken her like Casey says happened I would definitely be upset, not stone cold, and I wouldn’t be talking about the food in jail or how bad I look. I wouldn’t be able to worry about how I look or anything else other than my child. All of us are here because we are truly concerned for and care for Caylee and are hoping and praying that justice be done for her.
ja–some are just trying to put all the facts together–like a puzzle to see if it could possibly form a picture that makes any sense at all. As many lies as have been told if you try to consider every suposed fact the picture does become quite crazy. Not because we are all nuts, but because of the crazy lieing details which have been provided as fact. We did’nt make the statements she did.
Not my intention. A father of four and grandfather of the same number I see your point. I am talking about the people that without verifying the facts or knowing would go as far as writing or commenting. That is the kind os stupid I am talking about.
I don’t believe that anyone means any harm by any of their comments. I think that is not anybody who knows the facts 100% in this case other than Casey. None of us here know what happened nor does anybody here claim to know what happened. I believe that this is one of the main purposes of this site so people can come here and express their feelings about what they feel happened, not to intentionally accuse anybody of anything or state untrue facts. I think that this site gives everyone a little piece of mind in this crazy case that has everyone so frustrated.
Couple of questions:
1.) Why would anyone believe that Casey had a nanny? Clearly she didn’t have a job to pay for a nanny, correct? Then why do they believe her?
2.) Who is Caylee’s father?
3.) Does anyone remember that when Casey first heard that a bag of toys were found by divers in the lake/river a few weeks ago, she turned her back on the TV and went back to her cell. When they found the bag in the woods with the skull, Casey had a panic attack. Proves she knew it was her child this time?
I think Casey was telling the police she killed her daughter. Zenaida Gonzales was an actress who did one episode of LA Forensic’s called Mystery about three people strangled and they have no forensic evidence.www.imdb.com/name/nm2809710
Vicky is on aim right now
Interesting Don, don’t know about anyone else but, I had not heard of the ZG connection before.
You guys are so sad, I “almost” feel sorry for you.
I don’t really think that we are sad lassen. What is sad is that a little girl was killed before she even made it to her 3rd birthday. She was just an innocent child he didn’t deserve something like that to happen to her. And what is even sadder is that more than likely the person who took her life was her mother. The one person in the world who is supposed to protect her more than anybody. That’s sad!
Hello. Im Victoria Aleman. And let me just start off with is i love my son more then anything in this world.
Let me clear off a few things though i was advised not too.
1. I dont nor ever did live in sawgrass apartments.
2. I knew of casey. but never her personally. We had mutual friends but i’ve never even spoken a word her.
3. The comments on my page: from iassen: its lyrics kayne west.. about a girl who is heartless.. we both really like that song. from amanduhhh: the babysitters club is a movie.. we had watched it and i thought it would be funny to comment about that it was an inside joke. about my brakes.. my sons father was going to fix them me. and the headlights.. my light switch is broken so the highbeams dont turn off..
4. yes. im a young mother. and i like to go out and have a good time. my son is ALWAYS in good hands. Just because casey did what she did doesnt mean the rest of us are like that.
5. the only involvement i have in this case is the fact that i have a 3 year old son and could neverrrr imagine someone hurting their own flesh and blood. i have been following this case from the beginning just like everyone else. to sit here and point fingers at ppl. you dont understand how much it hurts me to have even been compared to casey. but im sure its the excitement and the adrenaline in this drama and trying to come to a conclusion. im sorry to inform you that not what you are looking for. and i never knew casey on a personal level for her to know any details about my life to have used it in her lies.
I am greatly insulted by this and have no idea how i got so involved in it.
Victoria. First off thank you for sharing. I don’t believe that every young mother is like Casey at all. I was only 18 when I had my daughter so I was a young mother also and never once did I even have the thought come across my mind to hurt my child. I think that even though you didn’t know Casey on a personal level she may have known more about you than you think she did. It seems like she used bits of information about you for her story about the “nanny”. I don’t think anybody thinks that you are involved. It’s just a shame that people who were in any way connected to Casey have been dragged into this mess.
I keep reading these things and i am appalled at ppls imagination. I dont have to do this. but im willing to clear up questions if you have any. Like Erica was so interested in knowing i am on aim.
Hello Victoria, if that is indeed who you are. You say you are so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
I think it took guts to come here and say what you have said. I think the fact that you have been drug into this is pretty much what allot of ppl here are saying is so horrible. You like ZG, Lee, and a huge host of others have had little bits and peices of your lives woven into KC’s lies. Beleive me KC has lied so much no one knows what to believe. When you incorporate that with the fact that she also weaves a small peice of truth into her statements it becomes very hard to differenciate which peices are the lies and which peices are the truth. I hope you can come to see that no one here would accuse you of anything without actually gaining some information based in fact. Folks may have speculated as to what your relationship was with KC and through that speculation come up with a theory on their own. But, it seems you have cleared that up. Also please keep in mind that just because one person on here expresses their opinion in no way does it mean that anyone else, much less the majority of posters agree with their speculations. I hate that you have been hurt or insulted that your name has been brought up on this page, please remember that you were involved by KC, not us. No one here is looking to harm anyone, only seeking justice for the angel Caylee.
Victoria, I honestly do not believe that you are in any way involved. And it’s saddens to me to know that you are hurt by this. If anybody made any speculation about you I and I believe most of the others do not feel that way. I think the majority of people feel that Casey may have used information about you, however she may have gotten it, to come up with some of her lies that she told LE regarding “Zanny”. I too think it took a lot of courage for you to come on here and tell your side. And I don’t think anybody is knockin’ you for having a life outside of taking care of your child. Believe me I’m certainly not. I know what it is like to be young and have a child. Yes that child is your responsibility but you do deserve to have a break sometime as long as you are leaving your child in good hands. Which obviously you have done. I just feel sorry that you had to be involved in this, especially knowing now that you have no direct connection to Casey.
Katie is my best friend. and she lived at sawgrass never worked there. She didnt know anything about the case and had mentioned that i had a lot of mutual friends with casey that i would know more. (to the detective) thats how we got brought up.
Katie, do you happen to know how the rest of Casey’s friends are doing or how they feel about everything that has happened?
All u people talking here like u knw anything are a bunch of dumbasses……wat are u guys in middle school…this is da stupidest shit I read on my life..how u guys think that casey is using these other girls like casey is smart that chick is a complete retard just like y’all
Katie hasnt read this yet. She isnt the one that knows her friends. I do… but its not my business to discuss their feelings with anyone. Im sorry.
Victoria, I think Casey used your myspace page to glean information from you.
VA: And she probably used other people’s too. There are beaucoups of documents and the similiarities are astonishing. Like the babysitter had Caylee at Disney, Seaworld, and then around the 4th of July, they went to Tampa where they had an automobile accident. The babsitter drove a Ford Focus. Her sister was Samantha. But the babysitter was 25, PR w/brown curly hair that she straightened, and she had a sister Sam that was 27, who had two children. In a resume Casey wrote, she said that she was going to Valencia and worked as a nanny.
So, when someone came across your name as someone Casey may have knew from Sawgrass or had a connection to sawgrass (the nanny didn’t live at sawgrass, she just had friends there and Casey supposedly dropped Caylee off with the nanny at Sawgrass while the nanny was visiting with those friends).
She also described the nanny as 5′7″ and 140 pounds. Maybe is PR and African-American, with brown curly hair that she straightens. That description is pretty close to Valerie’s description.
Casey was good at making up stories and incorporating other people into them.
And we all know that most of you are pretty decent kids. And kudos to raising a baby in this day and age at such a young age and for continuing your education. It looks as if you have your act together.
Will you please ask SD to come on here and give us some info…the party hound.
he wont. he doesnt let it get to him as i do.
Those disney pics are recent. from nov. 08 wayyy after all of caseys stories.
Thanks Victoria for coming here. One thing you might think about is that lots of folks from this site also go to lots of other sites where the same speculations are probably circulating. These are good folks here and if they know something to be insignificant to the case they will speak up. So I think it will go along way to clearing up the scenarios regarding your involvement.
My daughter is young with a child—it has turned her life around and she is a wonderful mother and I am very proud of her. So I know there are young mothers out there that do the right things to support their children and put them first in there life. It’s also not a negative thing to take a little down time for yourself.
dabest, do you know Casey personally?
coldin PA—I think dabest is daworst speller I’ve seen on her in a while. Maybe a da-rop out mate of KC’s.
sorry on here in a while
lol Ginger! I agree with you!
Victoria I think that you have been very respectful to all who are posting here and I think everyone here appreciates the fact that you have talked to us. It is so much nicer than people who are coming on here and bashing everyone for being interested in this case and hoping to find justice for Caylee. Thank you!
No problem. I can’t believe some of the things ppl have said. I believe thats why “ja” was so angry.. as a father of four.. he would of course go into defense mode to defend his youngest daughter…(me)
I thought that was who it was after he said father of four and grandfather. I can totally respect that though. That’s what a parent does. I think he did seem very upset at first but as the conversation went on he seemed to calm down a little. It is totally understandable.
This blog made me very upset. I was wondering why i was getting a lot of friend request when you have to know my last name to add me.
Victoria, to you and your dad I am very glad you both came here. We do not want anything but answers in this case. We also want only the right answers. No lies and we don’t want to perpetuate any lies. God knows we’ve had enough of those from KC which has obviously hurt alot of people. I beleive you have been honest and I am sure your father is only looking to protect you and his grandbaby. No on can fault either of you. God bless you and your family for having been dragged into the middle of this. I hope that the truth is finally revealed so that Orlando can find closure to this horrible incident. I pray that Caylee’s grandparents hearts are touched by god and led to tell what ever they know which may bring justice for their grandbaby.
Bless you and your family
Thank you so much. I cant help but to watch youtube videos with caylee on them.. it breaks my heart but i cant turn away. i didnt know her.. but it hurts as if i did.
Victoria. I know how you feel. I think we all feel that way about Caylee. It is so hard to step away from all the news of this case.
Remember, most everything Casey says is a lie. During one of the jail house tapes, Cindy asked Casey if Zanny had a key. Casey then said, or something close it, yes, don’t you remember me telling you Zanny had a key.
ja, you’ve got one classy daughter! You have every right to be proud. Vicki, you are a wonderful person. I saw your interview with tru-tv’s In Session. I only paid half attention to it but it got me when you said that you didn’t want people to think that all young moms like you are like Casey. Far from it, hope you know that. God bless you always.
Thank you so much!
Wait to go Vicky…It’s just so sad to read how someone innocent of the facts of such case is dragged in it like a rag doll…with some of these individuals showing no respect what so ever for ppls privacy and rights. I admire your maturity handling this, but on the other hand, think you owe no one an explanation that’s not due. I’ve known you for a short period of time but have to grown to love you and that little angel that stole my heart from the first time I saw his eyes. Be careful who you hang out with and around of…And don’t ever let your guard down. I’m proud of you mamita. Cuidate mucho mucho mucho! Can you come down for Xmas?? I think a change of environment would do you good for a couple of days.
Sorry about that typo…I meant to write “Way to go”
The vacant Sawgrass Apartment connection keeps bugging me. Since Casey was MIA for many days, and it is claimed that test results indicate a body had been in the trunk of Casey’s car for over 2 days, and it’s hard to believe Casey would have driven around with a dead body in the trunk of her car for very long, I wonder if perhaps the body of Caylee was kept for a time in the vacant Sawgrass apartment.