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Bombshell.
wee ha
She robbed a piggy bank…….criminal
Casey is such a beast. The more that comes out, the more I shake my head in disbelief!
maybe they need to go back and take another whiff of the car.
I think George must have gotten apeak into the trunk when he went to retrieve the gas cans
Selfish and heartless sound to be a perfectly apt description of Casey.
I don’t know how deep that cars trunk is. My sis has a camry and hers is pretty deep
Maureen, I think if he had seen Caylee’s body in the trunk that day with the gas cans, he would have killed Casey right then and there. Just my opinion.
and it seems to me, that everytime LE releases a tape or suggests something, we have increased “caylee sightings”
Maureen- “absolutely”
Ha Caryn I agree. I can’t even use that word without thinking of this case.
Maureen…”absolutely” since “day one”
When Casey made that statement ‘T
Whose clothes was she (casey)referring to when she made that statement. Casey’s or Caylees? I can’t tell.
Caylee’s clothes
Caylees clothes
I tend to believe what Cindy just said. She was trying to the police semi-involved so Casey would tell her where Caylee was. She really thought Casey was just hiding Caylee.
At least he says that this dysfunctional family is doing all they can to cover up! and this dysfunctional grandma!
Yourturn, I have been thinking about that poster who said that the body was in the trunk for 11 days. The one that said that he has a friend in the FBI. Can you help me find it? I believe the post was back in September…
Okay so George reports the shed has been broken into and gas cans stolen. Then Amy said they both went to target to buy gas cans for her car running out of gas. whats’ the deal with all the gas cans? she ran out of gas twice in one week or so? Was that a ploy to get a gas can so she could burn Caylee’s body? Casey’s reaction towards the search is so non-chalant that I believe she is so confident she will not get caught and they will not find her body, she wont talk about it and I truley believe she burned her body. Also, someone knows, one of her friends, maybe her parents. Someone may have helped her out. If you think about it, the Anthony’s are now all of sudden sticking to the ” It was the pizza” theory and they are protecting thier daughter…sad enough. If my son killed somone, you better believe I would turn his a** in right away. I don’t care if your family, taking someone life , is serious and should never even be a thought. Justice will be served.
That is a stupid question,,,casey did not want him in the turnk because she had the gas cans. That is the reason…not because there was a smell of death. If the car smelled at that time, he would have smelled it. He said the gas cans were in the folding tote bag that was in the trunk…He saw the inside of the trunk at that time. The car was in the garage or driveway sometime after that, too, because tCasey took her mom’s car and George followed her. Caylee was not in the trunk then or they would have smelled it. We need Zak here for the timeline.
Remember the gas cans were stolen on June 22nd, George isn’t asking her about cans, he’s asking about car stands. So she goes to the trunk and hands him the effing cans, he didn’t ask for cans. That was a weird statement, unless he really wanted to see if she had stole his gas cans and she knew it.
Why didn’t he say, not the gas cans, the car stands and get her to open the trunk again. hmmm
Your so rigyht about the Caylee sightings increasing now….That picture does not look liek Caylee, Im sorry. this is just a set up. I bet you Baez has something to do with that to steer the focus away. they only have three witnesses to help them out they need to establish the what if theory? and prove that she may not be dead…then Casey gets off and Baez makes more money and becomes famous!
Cindy & George are done! They can no longer “cover-up” their daughters’ Lies. This is the “be all and end all” – shut your mouths, or come forward with the TRUTH!
Amy Lou,
Do you mean the little girl in the hair salon? At least thats what I thought it was. To me if kind of looked like her. Its been 6 months, children change quickly at that age. And another point, I hate to say it but with “photo shop software” nowadays, you probably could get anyone to look like Caylee to some degree. But I’d hope the FBI could tell the difference.
This it going to be a stuff trial.
Conviction for murder? At least someone is saying that is a possibility. Forensics the key issue for conviction. There is a lot more here than just forensics. Can they prove that Casey will not tell anyone anything about what really happened?
June 24th – george reported stolen gas cans & broken lock on shed. Casey stopped by for clothes (no Caylee seen) & that’s when George asked for gadget in trunk. No smell mentioned.
stuff = tuff…lol
Curious Dee, I thought the same thing!
but that is how casey works…change the issue and act pissed so she did not have to get out the car stands… she can act all upset and side tract him with the gas cans
I question why they release these photos knowing it’s not her. Photos of any child that looks like Caylee means “absolutely” nothing. And any 3yr old with brown hair from a distance, the side, the back – all look alike.
Nigerian pyramid scheme?????wtf
Never a straight on photo……
Lets just forget about all the evidence and lies for a minute and pretend Caylee is still out there. I doubt very much her kidnappers would take her to a playground at the mall in Florida. If they were that stupid she’d of been found by now.
If caylee died on the 17th of June as many have speculated, then were was her body on the 24th?
YourTurn,
This is going to be interesting. Is he really that dumb?
I don’t think her friends would admit to any coke or meth use, because they don’t want any focus on their own activities. Her behavior 24 hr “on” is more suggestion of amphetamine use, legal or otherwise. She was the party girl. As soon as I heard Zanny, I thought zanax, it is a common nick name for zanax.
ya GA was taken by an internet scam and lost a lot of money!
yourturntohelp thats the scheme that you send 10,000 to the last person on the list and then ad your name and you get it sent to you 10 X the one that only a idot would do
Dad lies to mom…mom lies to dad, casey lies to mom and dad. Lies and more lies.
Maggots only feast on a dead body. That should end the pizza theroy
Took 48 hrs for baby robin remains to be removed by maggots in my backyard.
There was a post on here awhile back saying the blogger was friends with someone in the FBI and they had evidence caylee was in the trunk for 11 days. I think if she died on the 16th, that has the body being dumped on 26th. She didn’t want George near the trunk, as he might have stumbled on the body. If she wrapped the body in plastic, it could have hidden smell for a few days. This hot florida sun, though. WHEW. If he got the cans on 22- the body would have been roughly 1 week dead. Hard to believe he couldn’t smell it then.
Isn’t it funny that George always watches the food channel. Maybe that is because Cindy wears the pants in the family
Actually that was when I noticed the fallen baby, so they probably had a head start….another day maybe.
Who is the blonde girl in the video with the anthonys
If the body was in the trunk, hidden, on the 24th, it would have smelled to high heaven and george would have smelled it right away
I just hope they have enough evidence to convict her.
hellooo
NC, do you think, at a distance if the body was wrapped up, that the scent would have been less noticable? Until the bag ripped and the remains came out. He mentioned in the video, “as close as you and I” when describing when he smelled that smell.
The body may have been in another place at that time, then moved to ….whereever.
Maureen,
As far as the drug use, I’m with you. Her friends wouldn’t admit it, thats true. But to me Casey shows classic signs of a meth user. The lack of empathy,
her need for cash & what did she use all of this money on?
And I’m very disappointed that the stain didn’t tell us anything but G says the stain was were the smell was coming from. So why is it that 6 months after, the car still reeks. Something has to be somewhere, I think.
#1- where have you been?
Unforntunately, my kinds are still up, so I can’t watch NG
Agree Curious. Did they take out the back seats & all to test. Car trunks now open right into the back seat area.
AWOL..George smelled the car from a distance in the tow yard before he ever got to the car. He stood outside the car and left the door open before even opening the trunk…and there was NO body in the trunk at that time. I am just saying that if a body was in that car on the 24th, George would have smelled it whether it was wrapped or not.
Meth. Absolutely
so do you think Cindy beat George down about this interview or what ! of course he then lied and said well i don’t think that way now! wonder where casey learned to lie
Curious Dee – I had a Mercury Tracer and ended up with a coolant leak *inside* on the passenger side air bag. I got the mechanical problem fixed, and had the interior of the car professionally cleaned. Six months later, we could still smell the coolant. It had saturated the carpet and the padding underneath.
The same premise goes for cleaning household carpet – once you have something go through the fiber, it gets into the padding. Shampooers can only get the surface clean.
Based on the year of Casey’s car, that model had a single back bench, not a 60/40 split.
Hi caryn, ive been chatting away with ARN in the back, its so pretty back there now
my show is on “ghost adventres” really cool, so Im going now, have a good night all !!
I agree I think Drugs were definatly involved. I think she used meth like you said and I think she sedated her daughter so she could party. she wanted to prove to her mother she could do it alone but at theh same time she wanted to party and you know with a 2 year old , its kinda hard to party when you dont have a sitter. What a coincidense she picked a common name …why because she researched it before hand. she knew that using a hyphenated last name, hispanic no less in orlando…would be difficult to prove. When people become drug addicts there value on life changes and crazy thought run threw there head like pertaining to reality. that is why you see a great deal of people kill other when they are using meth and other drugs like Acid. They dont realize until after they become sober what they are doing.
Agreed, but by that time,the bag had ripped open and some fluids seeped into the car (the stain). I wonder if the body was wrapped up, if it could have masked the odor. I live in FL myself, it is extremely warm here during June, so I do wonder why he couldn’t smell it at all 6-7 days after…
dont for get casey had amys car for a hole week, and some of her boyfriends in between, ok im going now goodnight.
well what does anyone think about the 1200 pictures provacative?
I think that would have to be one heck of a trash bag………..
Why did she borrow Amy’s car when she still had her own?
Sorry, that was July wasn’t it? Not June
I think her final snap of reality was her daughter’s death. That fixed her path. No going back. I just wonder how many times she had to look at her like that. She really seems to have “beat it” in her backwards sort of way mind.
Sorry, that was July wasn’t it? Not June
Help y’all – somebody – anybody
I watched Nancy Grace last night and I never heard the song title she referred to that Casey listened to over and over and over again.
I don’t have time to read all the threads to find out if the song was revealed.
Anyone know what it was? Help?
ok, I have a migraine coming on, so off with tv, lights, and into bed I go. Cheese is the trigger…..what can I say I love it…..
Have a good night everyone, I hope to watch the George videos tomorrow….
Ok, I have seen maggots in trash before. Also, there was a woman that was sueing KFC for maggots being in her chicken. That never went to court because the chicken was left on the counter for along time. Where do these maggots come from?
J – The words to the song are posted on the blog “the video of G & C released”, 103 comments.
I had never heard of this song before either.
I know that we found a roof rat dead on our back porch, it could not have been there very long. I would say overnight, but there were already a few maggots on it when we found it.
Sevendust song
yourturntohelp, on November 21st, 2008 at 8:38 pm Said:
Nigerian pyramid scheme?????wtf
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I read now and then about somebody falling for this. It is usually somebody old. I kind of think..poor soul. But George??? A detective???
I don’t know if you have ever gotten these letters. They are pretty interesting. Usually a lot of mispelled words.
I thought only the senile..bought into that. I guess I was wrong.
Isn’t there something about a fool being born every minute?
J
are you there?
I’m finally on George’s seventh part of the FBI interview. So very, very sad.
the past by Sevendust I believe is what it was, can anyone confirm this?
MZO yes
The Past
Beneath the water
that’s falling from my eyes
lays a soul I’ve left behind
the edge of sorrow was reached but now I’m fine
I’ve filled the hole I had inside
I’ll pray it doesn’t scream my name
so I light a flame and let it breathe
the air that kills the shame
I’m up
I’m down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I’ve erased the past again
a risky morning
I feel like I’m alive
I can’t believe I’ve made it through this time
the edge of sorrow I lived in for some time
(lived in for some time)
has left the hole I have inside
The burden is I try my hate
was the last thing I ever felt
or thought I could escape
I’m up
I’m down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I’ve erased the past again
[x2]
You let me in then broke me down
the difference is this time around
I will not let you see me try
I’m up
I’m down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I’ve erased the past again
[x2]
Erased the past again now
Erased the past again
Beneath the water
that has fallen from my eyes
Does anyone have the link to the blog C & G released.
I wanted to see the name of the song or the lyrics and I can’t find it.
Curious try Youtube.com
Curious Dee,
Th Past ….or what song?
Florida TV station WFTV-Channel 9 reported yesterday that SEVENDUST’s song “The Past” was played repeatedly by Casey Anthony — who has been charged with first-degree murder in the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee — while she was out on bond. The SEVENDUST track carries this lyric: “Beneath the water that’s falling from my eyes, Lays a soul I’ve left behind.” The song was also apparently a topic of discussion on “Nancy Grace”, a nightly current affairs show on CNN’s Headline News hosted by Nancy Ann Grace, an American legal commentator, television host, and former prosecutor.
SEVENDUST has issued the following statement regarding the matter:
“After hearing the news that our song ‘The Past’ was a topic of discussion on the Nancy Grace show yesterday, we would like to elaborate. The song was written as a song of hope. A song with positive message. To look back on your life and reflect and to feel good about getting through the rough times that everyone goes through, the roller coaster of life, so to speak.
“We regret that we’ve been linked to the horrible subject involving the disappearance of little Caylee Anthony. Most of us have children and have been saddened by the story from the beginning.
“We pray for the safe return of this beautiful young child and wish her family strength.”
SEVENDUST’s “The Past” (featuring Chris Daughtry):
maybe that was just another of George’s lies?
A writer can never know how one person will interpret his or her song.
jeanne
are you here?
Remember the crazy mom back in the 80’s who killed her two daughters and had her sons help her do it. She played that song hungry like the wolf by Duran Duran over and over and over…. This was before CNN
What does timer55 mean in computer programmer language?
I have made the same observation has somebody else did a while ago (like weeks)..
Casey listens to her Attorney and Keeps her mouth closed, however, that is not the best advice.
CA & GA ignored the advice of Mark NeJame.
Mark NeJame (not necessarily that I like him) is very well spoken, and comes across as being dignified. While Baez is not well spoken, and comes across as a slimeball.
I’m watching a Cindy video. OMG does that woman ever stop?
I know BJ, I just started the CIndy vid. YIKES!
Okay, thanks BJ,
I heard it. Its song by Chris Daugtry, the guy off of American Idol. Beautiful song really.
It made me wonder, how come Ricardo played off his break up with Casey as amicable and Amy said Casey was mortified by the break up. I know, its suppose to be a song referring to Caylee, but if just reminded me of that situation. Ric lies about that, Tony lies about going to the video store. Oh boy.
Just more mystery. lol
I’m trying to remember what it means in which language
Cindy has an excuse for every single little thing that Casey did or said. Nothing is Casey’s fault. It’s Jesse’s, it’s Amy’s…………..but never Casey’s fault.
Curioous Dee,
Did you see the response from the group that sings the song above??
BJ, that’s why Cindy needs the notes. To keep the “stories” straight.
Curious Dee – Ricardo might not be lying about the break up. That’s how he took it, and then you have the flip side.
The person that calls of the relationship is typically the one that is easier. I remember when my boyfriend of three years broke up with me, I was so devastated that I couldn’t stand up, let alone drive! Yet, he didn’t have a care in the world.
Did anyone else catch that in the released videos of George, during the “gas can incident”, that he remembers the date of June 22, being the last date he was in the shed before he noticed the gas cans missing. He knows this because he and Cindy were trimming the bamboo.
Didn’t Cindy make the comment to Greta that Casey borrowed the shovel from the neighbor on the 19th to “trim the bamboo”? Must be very meticulous about their bamboo….
aha.
not to trim the bamboo, but to DIG UP the bamboo.
why would CA and GA need to trim bamboo if Casey already dug it up?
Goodnight. Numbers is on.
Another little jewel regarding the gas cans. George initially stated that there was about $50.00 worth of gas stolen from the shed. In the video, he states when he recovered the gas cans that were stolen back from Casey, they were two 2 1/2 gallon gas cans.
I don’t think that adds up to $50.00.
In the very beginning, George stated he didn’t see the trunk of the car, he only got as far as the front wheel well. In these FBI tapes, he says he saw the blue collapsible cart Casey kept in the trunk and some clothes. Which one is it George? I have to admit, I do feel for this man at times. But then Cindy opens her mouth and I don’t feel anything but angry. grrrrrrr….
AWOL:
That would be Diane Downs.
There was a movie of the week, “Small Sacrifices” in which Farrah Fawcett played the part of Diane.
Lots of speculation on what timer55 means on other blog sites.
I have often thought about her using meth, I thought about it also, when i read that Casey’s behavior got more Eratic as the days went by. If she was using meth , then she was being watched 24/7, she couldn’t get anymore. So she would have been coming down pretty hard . I have a daughter -in-law that was and Casey probably would still be if she could get it. JMO,As far as G&C, i would die if anything happened to my granddaughter !! In fact she took her away from us May 2007, that has nearly killed me.She was with me 99.9% of the time . It caused medical problems and horrible emotional stress and depression. Not a day goes by that i don’t think of her and miss her so much ! Casey’s personality is just like this girls !!! I just pray that little Caylee is found one way or another.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom.
No, not Diane Downs that AWOL was talking about. No help from any son’s in the Diane Downs case.
Diane tried to kill her three children, but one daughter and her son lived and they testified against her. Both are paralyzed, I believe, and were adopted by the prosecutor and his wife.
This happened in Oregon where I live.
It was all for a man that didn’t want her kids around.
Hello All,
I believe Caylee was placed and moved around a couple times, perhaps this is why she may or may not have been in the trunk when GA caught Casey in the lie about the cans. I have many theories about this case and the gas may or may not figure into this case. I have to admit, Padilla though I love him, the clothes being taken off to put in the pool makes no sense.
What was the clothers Caylee wearing at day she went missing? I have never heard
So now we have another date- June 14?
Brooke, I can’t figure out why her clothes became seperate from her either. And what was she doing with that shovel for 1 hour.? I doubt she was chiseling bamboo.
Molly
The shovel:
Casey stuck the shovel into the ground and practiced her pole dancing routine…
And my other big question is, why did she leave her purse in the car when she abandoned it ?
Zak, LOL too funny !!
Well………………. it was suggested last night by a dear friend that Casey stuck the shovel in the ground and used the handle to practice her pole dancing
Zak, you beat me to it.
BJ:
Hi! re: AWOL’s post, maybe case details mistinterpreted in question, and especially on my part on the “had son’s help in killing children”.
I was just going on Hungry by the Wolf, and know that was Diane Downs who claimed to have that song in her head and played it continuously.
You are correct that the children testified against Diane and they spoke of her continuously playing the Duran Duran song.
Thank you for reply!
Evening all
Welcome to the 3 ring circus! Gotta find a way for CA to SHUT UP— what a goblin!
BJ:
saw that as well re: shovel dancing
LMAO
What about the Clothers Caylee was wearing at the time of missing?
Zak
LOL
Molly:
I have also wondered that same question re: purse.
I think it was a ploy to get someone to steal the car. However, she had her wallet and keys with her. Who knows what her crazy self was thinking.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
AWOL, on November 21st, 2008 at 9:40 pm Said:
Remember the crazy mom back in the 80’s who killed her two daughters and had her sons help her do it. She played that song hungry like the wolf by Duran Duran over and over and over…. This was before CNN
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Not sure if I’m understanding. Diane might have liked the song but didn’t have any sons that helped her kill her daughters. My be AWOL had the facts about the case wrong.
Casey was using the shovel to load up all her pre-arranged bs
I just got moderated again. I can’t win today.
Did anyone catch at the beginning of the second video of George when asked about Casey and Cindy’s relationship and he said it was typical…they had their moments. He goes on to say that Cindy was “a good mother” . He then says, “Casey was a good (pause) girl, daughter.” Almost as if he wanted to say “mom” or “mother” but couldn’t bring himself to say it.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom:
I wasn’t going to say who said it……and then there she was
it posted that time.
ZAk
I looked at those pics AGAIN. I can’t see a ballcap—the fence post makes it look that way(the pics from apt complex)
BJ
What’s with all the moderation?
Chrissy – can you imagine if someone stole that car with that stink in it. They’d leave it after 2 minutes, if that long.
I had a big question about CA’s involvement in the cover up. She didn’t say anthing to GA about the decomp smell when he picked the car up. She offered to drive the car home. He said you could smell it from far away. When he got the car home she immediately said it was the pizza. Did she know about the pizza because she put it in there???
BJ;
I think that was what I was “kindly” trying to say. That maybe AWOL had the facts about the case wrong. Perhaps facts about 2 different cases. Please don’t feel I was arguing with you about it. I am no expert LOL
I just remember the Downs case and the song. Also, the Small Sacrifices movie based on the case, b/c I am a Lifetime Movie junkie…. LOL
Thanks everone for answer my?:(
Molly:
oh my yes….open door….run, forrest, run….
LOL
Zak, she didn’t come up with the pizza theory until after Casey was arrested. Remmeber her 911 call on July 15th, “the car smells like it had a dead body in it”.
Zak, she and George had talked at the tow yard after George got the car started. Cindy was still arguing with the front office over the bill. Then Cindy wanted to drive the car home and George said, no, that he would do it. So he had probably told her about the trash bag in the trunk already.
geniema in ga 1st interview that was released he said what caylee and casey were wearing I think caylee was wearing a jean skirt
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were talking on their cell phones on their drives home, also.
Just my thoughts on your question.
BJ
caught that! LOL Zak!!! LOL
did they ever find caylees backpack and the stuff she took on the 16th ?
Joe D, on November 21st, 2008 at 10:46 pm Said:
BJ
What’s with all the moderation?
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I just tried to post a comment to DQ and it got moderated on another thread. It was very “generic”. I dunno what’s up
Ever since someone posted something nasty using my name the other night I have been getting moderated…….for really dumb things.
Evening all, I was listening to the CA tapes, and guess what they put me to sleep. A great 2 hour nap. BJ…didn’t you find a meaning for the time55?? or am I remembering wrong again??
That also makes me think of when Cindy said she talked to Casey everyday. She couldn’t have. Didn’t she ask her about the smell in the car after June 30th when they picked it up? And if she didn’t talk to her for those 2 weeks, why didn’t they call the police knowing about that smell?
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
Didn’t think we were arguing at all.
Whatever Pizzaria they got it from should be closed down
Oh man… I’m on part 3 of Cindy’s interview. She is really nuts. I can’t even believe I’m still listening….
Cindy thinks the most illogical things make sense, and the most logical conclusions don’t. That’s pretty much the story of Cindy, isn’t it?
BJ
Case of Cindy paranoria LOL
Joe D….don’t think I will ever think of pizza the same again.
Tamee, no backpack found yet.
Jadan,
I didn’t ever look for it………time55
caryn, it was pure torture and I forwarded when I could. I’m now going to try to forget about Cindy all weekend long if I can.
Did anyone count the times in these and other tapes by GA that he admitted to lying to CA…what do these people not know anything but Lies
Cindy says Casey is giving clues? Cindy needs to get a clue!!!
Molly
Good point!!
Molly:
we are thinking alike… in the 911 calls, cindy says casey was missing as well but she had “found her”. george admits to talking to her on the phone, cindy says she talked to her on the phone, george saw her on the day of the gas can fiasco..how could she be missing??? they just didn’t know where she was staying. I think I read somewhere Cindy just “threw that in the 911 call” to get the police to her house ASAP when they didnt come the first time.
Logical- indeed!! I’m with you. And good luck to the both of us!
Jadan
I had pizza earlier tonight—it was left over about 2 weeks ago—-NO SMELL
oh lord timer55…theories abound on other blogs
i have also read that it is the name of a trojan virus / malicious software maybe casey wrote code since she was so smart with computers (according to george) that she thought when LE entered p/w her laptop would explode…..
Chrissy
LOL
Re: purse left in car. I don’t think Casey was trying to lure someone to steal the car. i believe she wanted it to look like an abduction. I think Casey was going to “disappear” after what she did to Caylee. The reason for parking where she did was to be away from the main parking lot in case someone should see her getting out of it. No Caylee- she’s dead. No Casey. She is free from being responsible for her daughter’s death. If Casey were to be found but not Caylee, then Casey could blame the abductor. What got in the way from pulling this off? Tony. Casey is just as co-dependant on having a man in her life as Cindy was about her perfect family- even if CA had to mold that image. Its all about image. Casey was trying to save her image through an abductor scenario. She just lusted after Tony too much. Wait, she lusted after men too much. Waters was her next “victim”. Casey has a history of starting things but not continuing on with them. Her job at Universal being the one I’m thinking of. She could have been promoted but she managed to abort that by getting fired for being a no-show.
BJ, on November 21st, 2008 at 9:38 pm Said:
jeanne
are you here?
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Hi BJ here I am. I just finished watching and listening to all 7 tapes of Georges. That poor fellow sure needs a friend.
We know for sure she didn’t talk to Caylee in all that time though. She actually admitted that in court.
Jeanne
“George needs a friend”
George needs to grow a PAIR and DEPART from that asylum
One question I’ve not seen anywhere, could have been discussed….DID the guys who helped push her car into the AMSCOT parking lot? You;d think by now they would have come forward….
Jeanne,
Here is a copy of one of those Nigerian emails. I get them all the time. You said you hadn’t seen one.
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Mutual Business Proposal.
I am directed to urge your consent on the above mentioned issue. My name is Dr. Michael Kosa, Chairman of Contract Award Committee from the Federal Housing Authority Abuja.
A contract to the tune of US$ 15 M was awarded to Engineer Nelson Scott a national of your country here in Nigeria for the Re-Construction of Pipeline project from Bonny to Ndonni in River State by the past administration. Which has been completed, part payment was made before the work as mobilization. While payment has been effected, as well as an over payment draft was involved.
Nelson Scott died in an auto crash alongside three of his staff and the wife on there way to Port Harcourt last year.
It is my duty to confirm the receipt of the payment made and submit to the committee for proper cross checking before the investigation ends.
You are to receive a payment as a foreign contractor involved in the construction if you indicate interest and all the documents for the payment will be forwarded to pursue the payment. All arrangement has been put in place to ensure free transfer of the said amount.
More detail will come as I get your response, please. Sharing formalities is 50 / 50 for your account and receiving of the payment.
This is highly confidential,
Dr. Michael Kosa.
Chairman Contract Award Committee
Abuja.
Thanks Molly
Sherry,
have thought that as well. that could have been the reason behind the last withdrawl from Amy’s acct. the $250. She still had $200 in her wallet after Lee picked it up from Tony’s that night. Lee said Cindy pocketed it before LE saw it. I always thought she was going to bolt. It was just a matter of time before the check forging caught up with her now that Amy was home. therefore the “give me one more day”….
Thank goodness for Amy. If not for her knowing where Casey was, who knows what would have happened. That was Casey’s fatal mistake (other than whatever she did to poor Caylee) allowing Amy to drop her off @ Tony’s, where no one knew where she was staying. That is another reason I think she was going to leave. But what would have been her mode of transportation?
Ok folks after listening to George Anthony on the 7 tapes I have a few observations.
George needs a guy friend to talk with.
Cindy and George are very close.
Casey played those two like a violin.
Casey was a terrible thief who knew no bounds.
George and Cindy were about worn out with her
Lee has run off to find himself.
George is a pretty honest fellow who tried but failed.
Jadan, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:05 pm Said:
One question I’ve not se……….
I just remembered that they don’t exist except in Caseyland.
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That’s what I thought. There should have been an all points out for these guys………….
BJ nope it wasn’t me. I get them all the time. They sure sound promising..but who the heck would fall for them..oh yes..George. Poor George.
Thanks BJ, that is what I thought, then her car wasn;t out of gas and she parked it there to be stolen…
Someone said they had never seen one. Thought it was you
i have had maggots under a mattress on the basement floor, undergarbage cans, etc…no dead bodies!!!
and for taking money from my child’s piggy bank – what mother hasn’t
And George seems so relieved in every interview to be able to actually open up and unburden himself with another person. He could never do that with Cindy. Or felt that he couldn’t. A therapist would be a good thing. Probably his pastor has been a help in that respect, now that I am writing this.
Joe D, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:04 pm Said:
Jeanne
“George needs a friend”
George needs to grow a PAIR and DEPART from that asylum
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Hi Joe D Well we see it from the womans point of view and now..the mens point of view.
One Sunday our priest told the following homily.
A woman came to him with lots of troubles. She was deeply depressed. He asked her if she had any friends and the woman replied..yes I have one.
The priest said “well then my work is half done if you have a friend to talk to”
I think of that often and..wish a friend for George. He surely needs one.
I still think if we gave KC a cell phone in jail…she would be texting her way into a conviction.
Also a little info on the deceased baby daddy…
Casey would have received a survivor social security benefit check for Caylee and perhpas a portion for herself if the “real” father had been tested and knew he really was Caylee’s father. Upon his passing Casey could have filed for this and received a monthly check.
My husband passed away a few years ago and my 2 daughters and I all receive these benefits. Children receive them until they turn 18 or 21 if in college.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom, on November 21st, 2008 at 10:04 pm Said:
Another little jewel regarding the gas cans. George initially stated that there was about $50.00 worth of gas stolen from the shed. In the video, he states when he recovered the gas cans that were stolen back from Casey, they were two 2 1/2 gallon gas cans.
I don’t think that adds up to $50.00.
In the very beginning, George stated he didn’t see the trunk of the car, he only got as far as the front wheel well. In these FBI tapes, he says he saw the blue collapsible cart Casey kept in the trunk and some clothes. Which one is it George? I have to admit, I do feel for this man at times. But then Cindy opens her mouth and I don’t feel anything but angry. grrrrrrr….
no but at 4 dollars or so a gallon it could have been 25 dollars and maybe she stole them twice…making it 50 dollars and might be why they locked the shed they knew it was her
She also called Tony to pick her up, therfore blowing her abduction scenario. But still, why leave the purse then? And where was she going with just $ 200.00?? I think that was part of her contact with Matt(?) in California, trying to get him to pay for her trip out there.
Only problem I see, if the kid was as young as KC, he probably hadn’t work enough to get SS. for Caylee
Chrissy, it is 18 or until end of high school. It used to be older, but 18/graduation is the rule now.
And surviving spouse only until youngest reaches the age of 16.
Jadan, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:14 pm Said:
Only problem I see, if the kid was as young as KC, he probably hadn’t work enough to get SS. for Caylee
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It doesn’t matter if he worked or never worked. If you have a child and the father or mother die..you get SS til the child is 18.
good point kathy. I always thought maybe they were the 5 gal gas cans, until hearing it was the smaller ones on the videos today.
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Jaden: LOL
I know this is the wrong thread for this. But I now believe that photo is Caylee. The PI was not great in giving out info on where it was taken or the time or who took it. That can very well be Caylee and taken at some time with the family or Casey alone.
I believe that is why the press conference was canceled due to fear of getting caught. I have not heard LE comment on it at all.
Listening to Cindy. WOW what a piece of work.
Ok folks. I am on overload. I think I will..go and sit and stare at a wall for a bit.
As always, its been a grin.
Jadan, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:14 pm Said:
Only problem I see, if the kid was as young as KC, he probably hadn’t work enough to get SS. for Caylee
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I have a friend that adopted her grandson when her daughter died of diabetes at age 25. The daughter was on disability and had never really worked. My friend, even after the adoption, got over $300 a month for the child until he finished college. I don’t think it matters if the parent paid into SS. I think the kids would get help, regardless.
where is lee, the brother – laying low…getting his life back together – okay…
and who is the real father… where is his family
I say hold them all accountable for the death of Caylee and see if anyone speaks up
if Casey was such a bad person, why didnt they take Caylee away from her mother and take temporary custody of her before this…
I thought Casey and the baby lived with grandma and grandpa
Caylee not coming around for a month – Why was all this so disturbing a month later to grandma Cindy – even my mother would have questioned me if I did not bring the grandchildren by when I stopped by…especially if I had always brought them around before hand.
Father’s day grandma Cindy was at the nursing home…what happened after that…where did grandma go…
Mr. Policeman knows more than he wants to and is covering something…
I think you should hold them all in custody for obstruction.
Night Jeanne
Jadan,
There is no fathers name on the birth certificate. Casey just “said” it was him, and that was after she had fingered Jesse Grund. Luckily Jesse insisted on a paternity test ! Of course George & Cindy believe what she says now about the father.
Molly and Crissy, what are some of the theories on other blogs about timer55? Thanks.
BJ, Molly, and everyone else, thank you so much for letting me know about the song. I left the site to play a game (bad me). Haunting words.
On another note – without reading all of the comments…who is mfh? 11:10pm comment makes me ask?
Again, thanks everyone!!
I receive a partial part of my late husbands SS, until I reach 62, then I receive his entire amount.
Did any of you notice how many times George said and has said that he would give his life for his daughter and his granddaughter..He says this over and over. I would like to know what a psychologist would make of his statement.
If he would give his life for them, then would he not help Casey cover up Caylee’s death?
Chrissy, yeah, the “give me one more day” statement. I forgot about that. The mode of transportation- a one way ticket to Cali to see Mark Hawkins? Hmmm….
Jadan, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:22 pm Said:
I receive a partial part of my late husbands SS, until I reach 62, then I receive his entire amount.
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Huh???
We’ll have to discuss this on email.
I’m different.
Shyloh, that is an interesting theory. I would not put it past these people to pull a stunt like that…use an old picture of Caylee and try to say it was taken recently, to “prove” she is alive.
Logical, yes I know I only have 4 more years until my youngest turns 16. Not sure, if it varies by state, but the longest my daughters can draw is until 21 IF they are in college, 18 for High School.
And yes, the amount you receive is based on the deceased parent’s income. They also go by the deceased’s birthday to determine what day of the month (usually a wednesday) you receive your check or direct deposit.
Ok BJ, maybe I get it because I am on SS disability, no idea why??
Angela, Timer55 theories
Some kind of sex thing
55 men for Casey
amount of time to check on Zanny (Xanex) dose
I cannot imagine they would stoop that low to put out a picture like that….
I’m pretty sure every mother doesn’t take from their child’s piggy bank.. I’ve needed change a few times, and it crossed my mind, but I didn’t do it.
BJ, Janda, Chrissy – There was no legal father. No name on birth cert. There’s no one to collect SS from.
Thank you …..Angela, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said:
Shyloh, that is an interesting theory. I would not put it past these people to pull a stunt like that…use an old picture of Caylee and try to say it was taken recently, to “prove” she is alive.****************************
After listening to Cindy’s interviews. This is the only conclusion I can come up with.
KC’s dad thought in the plastic bag in the trunk that it could not have been his granddaughter – he picked up the bag and put it in the trash – it looked like pizza cardboard…was it heavy like a child…NO
Then the Dr. Lee took samples of things in the trunk – air samples…pizza, frozen things left over from when…I thought dad emptied the bags into the trash…
By the way what happened to the passerbyer that mentioned he saw someone that looked like KC coming out from the open field area and the women was putting a black bag into the trunk with a shovel…what was in that bag…could have it been Caylee already dead and KC learned about that from her mother’s trip and mother and Lee put caylee into a plastic bag and told KC …perhaps KC is covering/protecting her own mother…
Thanks Molly.
Yes, hopefully they would not stoop that low, but CIndy has lied so much, and wants so much to prove Caylee is alive, one never knows…
Jadan,
Disability…..That could be. I get 70.4 % (I think it’s .4) of what my husband would have recieved at age 67. And widows can start collecting at age 60.
N.C., on November 21st, 2008 at 11:28 pm Said:
I cannot imagine they would stoop that low to put out a picture like that….***********************************
N.C. I think they would do anything at this point. Sad as it is.
mfh – agree – so sad to watch all these videos – Cindy babbles and babbles – trying to cover up the crap in her daughter’s life – the agent’s arms were closed most of the time – not so in George’s video . . .
Accountability is is major identifyer in their lives . . . they can’t look at now – maybe in January??
Molly, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:30 pm Said:
BJ, Janda, Chrissy – There was no legal father. No name on birth cert. There’s no one to collect SS from.
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We’re just talking about IF she had named a father.
I’m surprised that she didn’t go after the “real” father for support. Lord knows she needed money. But it’s possible that he was a one night stand and she didn’t even know his name.
BJ
ain’t that the truth!!!
shyloh, i don’t think that is Caylee, but I have thought the very same thing as you. What’s to keep CA from using old photos of Caylee? She would know which ones were on Casey’s MySpace and not use those. But all the “bad’ photos, they would look like ametuers took them, could be used.
Sherry C:
ahhh the Mark Hawkins…..yes!!! can’t wait to hear what he has to say as well as Annie!!!
Bj – agree. I don’t think she knows who it was either. Or he was married or something & covering that one up.
Sherry C., on November 21st, 2008 at 11:40 pm Said:
shyloh, i don’t think that is Caylee, but I have thought the very same thing as you. What’s to keep CA from using old photos of Caylee? She would know which ones were on Casey’s MySpace and not use those. But all the “bad’ photos, they would look like ametuers took them, could be used.*******
I believe they said it was from a cell phone. Casey loved to take photos. It was just a guess. But they do look very close haha.
Chrissy – remind me, who’s Mark Hawkins?
humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/emails-from-mark-hawkins/
There is lots on Mark Hawkins on this blog…..some good and some bad
I didn’t put the h – - – . // etc. because I have had problems posting links
Hi mfh, I’m not defending the Anthony’s in any way (believe me), but when a child and grandchild live with you (and sometimes even when they don’t), parents still tend to want to believe that their child will “grow up” and take care of their own children.
My granddaughters parents are both quite pathetic and while I have thought (dreamt) a thousand times of trying to gain custody of my granddaughter, the truth of the matter was that she was and is not being mistreated or abused by her parents.
Cindy and George made terrible choices by allowing Casey to run their lives for all of these years, but (aside from the fact I personally believe she was doping up precious little Caylee), there still does not appear to have been any real grounds for them to have seeked custody of little Caylee because her monster mother was so immature with her partying, lieing, etc.
When it came out that there was a huge “blow-up” at the Anthony home on the 15th of June (rumors of a huge fight, Cindy trying to choke Casey, possibility of Casey threatening to leave with Caylee or even Cindy ordering her to leave, etc.,) then I “kind of” understood why the Anthony’s didn’t go absolutely mad (crazy) not seeing precious little Caylee for a month.
This family is so full of lies and deceit, we don’t know and might not ever know what their conversations were (between Cindy, George and Casey) from the 16th of June until the 9-1-1 calls on the 15th of July. Casey could have been leading them to believe that she and Caylee were doing just fine without them and it all blew up in Casey’s face when Cindy and George got word of the impounded car.
About Lee…honestly, I think either he can’t handle the way his parents are behaving so he is intentionally keeping a distance or maybe they don’t want him around because he began to doubt many of Casey’s stories. Again, that’s just my opinion.
Regarding the real dad of precious little Caylee, I don’t think Casey even knows who the dad really is which is why so many stories have been fabricated about him. I don’t think he is one of the guys that died, I don’t believe little Caylee is a product of incest. I truly believe that Casey slept around so much that she has no idea who the dad could be.
And yep, I have to agree with you 100% that “mr policeman” knows alot more than he’s saying, but for some reason (and maybe it’s because he can’t stand the thought of losing Cindy or Casey with precious Caylee gone) he has decided to defend them to the end.
I still have to pray for that family nightly (all of them) to finally come clean.
Sad, just so flipping sad…
Thanks BJ!
Molly:
He “mysteriously” moved to Cali. when it was first reported about Caylee. (supposedly to join military)
I believe OCSO did travel out there to interview him. He remains a mystery and no interviews have been released about him.
I personally think Casey put Caylee inside some kind of plastic tote. The tote had a small crack in the bottom and that is how the circular kind of stain would have leaked out. Really, if it were some garbage bags, holding Caylee, they would be too mobile in the trunk. Garbage bags holding something like that would have sloshed and rolled back and forth with acceleration and braking. And that would not have produced a basket ball stain (only if the car was sitting still- in my opinion) Garbage bags would have leaked all around the place. Smearing and dripping and dribbling. I just know this because when we go to the cabin in the summer, we have to drive our garbage for about 1 mile to the dumpster. Garbage can really slosh around if it contains nasty stuff! I have all kinds of underlayment lining the back of the suv to contain leaks.
Another thing mfh, if you really have maggots under a mattress in your basement I’d say you really have a problem with cleanliness. You need to get your carpet ripped out and the padding as well. You have some kind of organic spill that is attracting the maggots and that is really unsanitary!!!!!!
mfh – The bag in the trunk was tossed over a fence by either George or I think it was the tow car guy. LE later went & retrieved it. Curious that Dr Lee said some samples were of pizza? What was this pizza, smeared all over the trunk. I wonder if Casey planted the empty boxes of frozen whatever in the trunk. When Tony picked her up, she had frozen food she had taken from her parents house.
I also remember right after Cindy said that about pizza being in the trunk, some guy in FL tested that theory out by putting pizza in the trunk of his car for about a week or so. He said you could smell it for a day or so, then it just petrified like piece of cardboard. I remember seeing him on the news showing it.
George Anthony said he and his wife had problems making their house payments because his daughter forged a deposit slip from her mother’s account for $4,400 check.
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What did Casey do with this money? Evidently G and C weren’t able to get it back from her to make their house payment. She must not have had it anymore. That would mean that she spent it pretty fast if they checked their account frequently. It would take me awhile to spend that much unless I bought big box items.
J-
well said.
I think the only truth Casey ever told, if Lee is telling the truth about it, is that when she said “something should have been done a long time ago” I feel as if she meant that she knew it was a short matter of time before it all came crashing down on her and if Cindy and George has been wiser to her instead of letting her get away with all the lies, none of this would have happend. Casey saw how far she could push her parents and how much she could get away with and became brilliant, so she thought at it. No one told her otherwise. So she continued to lie, cheat, steal, and ultimately, murder, whether it was intentional or not.
Scoobee – apparently there’s some kind of collapsable bin in the trunk also. Don’t know what that looks like though.
BJ,
She has fake boobies. She could have easily spent the 44 hundred on a new pair!
mfh, the area where the “supposed” sighting of Casey was thoroughly searched so LE most likely dismissed it as a non-credible lead (not positive, but with nothing being found and nothing more said, the lead probably didn’t pan out.) Also, I’m not positive, but I believe that “lead” was called in months after the fact which let me to believe it was just someone wanting their own 15 minutes of fame. That at least was my first gut instinct.
I wonder how long the car was left where Cindy found it? I think Casey left it there hoping that someone will steal it in which case she could blame whoever takes it of killing the little girl.
She had it all planned out, then the car ended up just sitting there and got discovered, in the mean time she worked on plan B, hence the babysitter story, the jobs she didn’t have, all the lies she made up to cover her ass because plan A didn’t pan out.
I have heard of lies from criminals before, but boy this ones has so many avenues, it’s hard to follow, how can she remember all the lies? It’s incredible the way she has dubed even the FBI and law enforcement, she is damn good.
And convieniently, she lost her phones, both of them. She threw those away cause am sure she knew it is game over once they looked at all that was in them.
I can’t fathom anyone, especially a mother, harming their own child and never even have an emotion at all.
She is as cold as ice, hope she rots in prison, never want to be so hateful, but Casey, you deserve every day of the punishment that is sure to come.
Justice delayed is NOT justice denied, for little Caylee, justice is, YOU go to prison never to see the light of day again.
BJ – I’ve also wondered what the heck she did with all of this money. She certainly didn’t buy gas. She went thru lots of money.
Chrissy aka Spoiled Mom:
Mark Hawkins- This guy didn’t just mysteriously disappear to joint the Marines in CA..
LCPL Mark Hawkins has been in the Marines for quite some time. He is in his second ranking. Lance Corporal – he is not a Private anymore. He had nothing to do with Caylee’s death. He was stationed at 29 Palms for at least the last year. He wanted to be a good role model for Caylee (July 2007 -not 2008).
Please keep in mind that I write fiction on the side before I say this, and my imagination tends to get the best of me sometimes…
…but as I was reading everyone’s comments about the Cindy tapes, something struck me. What if the “kidnapping” story was really Casey trying to extort Cindy and George? You know how everything has just a shred of truth to it in this case! If CA wasn’t phased by the smell, and if she’s making statements that are obviously false, I am inclined to think that she’s covering up for something that she feels is her fault in one way or another. I studied drug abuse in college for a semester and the habits Casey exhibits are almost right on for an addict.
Molly, well then maybe it could have been the collapsible bin lined with layers of garbage bags…. But I really think the bin or container had to be air tite until the crack leaked out some decomp juice and that is where the odor came from.
Dang it! My stupid comment posted early because my finger flew to the wrong key
Anyway, more to come (grrrr!)
scoobee, on November 21st, 2008 at 11:58 pm Said:
BJ,
She has fake boobies. She could have easily spent the 44 hundred on a new pair!
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Tell me if I’m wrong. I heard that Jesse Grund’s father paid for both of them.
Casey would lie, cheat, and steal to support her habit, and after seeing her sociopathic tendencies I would not be at all surprised if she tried something sick like threatening to hurt Caylee if Cindy didn’t pay up.
It’s probably pretty far-fetched, but I figured I’d get it off my chest
Thank you.
BJ
I wondered the same about the money. what was she doing with it? George said she had to borrow money for gas, diapers, etc. I guess she had to keep up appearances, so to speak, to make it look as if she were working, clothes, accessories, etc. and I’m sure she kept up with the clothing trends to fit in. She had to appear as if she was working and had money. I wonder if she used any of the “stolen” money to care for Caylee, as far as clothing, diapers. George did say she wouldn’t pick up milk on the way home and such. Wasn’t there a transcript of one of her friends that said Casey would offer to pay for food for others when they went out to eat, like for lunch or going out at night?
What did this girl do ALL DAY??
George rated Casey highly irresponsible on the FBI questionnaire and Cindy rated her very responsible. confilction at its best…
I agree, J. Especially about who Caylee’s dad is. When I first saw a pic of Mark Hawkins, I thought he was the dad. At the time everyone was saying it was JP Chatt. But Chatt has been disproved. Mark Hawkins is the military guy stationed in Cali. Casey said she had something to tell him that her mother and brother already knew about. She also said that she wasn’t sure how he would take it. He would write such nice emails to her and ask about Caylee. When Casey said she had to talk to him, it was shortly before she was caught concerning Caylee’s whereabouts. I think she was going to implicate him as being Caylee’s father. That would be something CA and LA would know and that would be something that would concern her about his reaction. I think she was hoping he wouldn’t take a paternity test.
mostly a lurker;
She did stage a kidnapping, but didn’t follow through on it. Cindy interrupted it and the car was towed. The inside of the car was set up as in Trenton Duckett’s disappearance.Caylee’s babydoll was left (Trenton’s CD was in the car), Casey’s purse and ID…. The grandma Shirley Plesea heard a recording of Caylee talking baby talk…. Casey’s uncle was a multi-millionaire. Casey was most likely expecting to fake a kidnapping and have her parents get the money from GA’s brother-in-law.
Oh, Mark Hawkins, not Matt sorry.
Agree Scoobee, I dont know the story on how big this bin is or if it was still in the car. George mentioned it in one of his interviews. But also claimed the stain on the carpet in the trunk, so……
Thanks Chrissy.
I have said this before (many many posts ago), I truly believe Cindy is so eaten up with guilt for not going through with her many threats of trying to get custody of Caylee, that her only way of “coping” is by simply refusing to believe anything bad happened to her. I think Casey has told Cindy it is “all her fault” and Cindy believes it.
Casey has to be the most incredible manipulator I think I have ever read about. But I believe she learned her manipulating from a pro (mommy Cindy) but managed to further perfect it to turn it around on her mother.
I truly believe Cindy believes if she admits to the world that little precious Caylee is dead, then the world is going to blame her (Cindy) and Cindy doesn’t want anyone to think she is any less than “perfect.”
BJ, I questionned over and over and over again, what Casey did with all of the money she has stolen. We may never know because (unfortunately) Cindy isn’t going to let it come out how much Casey has been taking over the years. That would make Cindy look bad and Cindy can’t look bad to anyone.
Cindy can’t stand the thought of anyone looking bad at Casey either because it’s a reflection on herself (again, just my opionions, but when I get on my high horses, I just can’t seem to shut up.)
BJ: Oh my gosh, what happened to that money? My opnion is that she might have paid someone for a favor?? If she spent it all at once, what the hell did she buy???
That is something to think about!!!
BJ,
I’m not sure about that, but doesn’t that kind of action clash with his reverend image? I’ve been reading his blogs and he just doesn’t strike me as the kind of lecherous man who would be concerned about physical appearance versus inside a person’s spiritual well being.
I don’t know???
Thanks, Zak
You’re so awesome at keeping all of these details straight!
J: you are so right.
I couldn’t have said it better myself, J. Right on.
Something interesting about LCPL Mark Hawkins, Tony L and Casey. On at least 2 different days. Mark and Casey talked and Casey and Tony talked. These calls were very close together- within 4 minutes. Like one call initiated the other, but Mark and Tony did not talk to each other. IMO Casey was the go between for those two. Something was going on there.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
A friend babysat for the first 8 months of Caylees life until she found out that Casey had NO job and was just hangin’ out and partying. She cared for Caylee for FREE.
Hi What was the clothers Caylee wearing at day she went missing? I have never heard what they was does any one know?
scoobee,
I don’t remember where or when I heard that about R Grund. It’s been long ago.
mostly a lurker:
my deceased husband was a drug abuser and ultimately died from his habit and I am a nurse. If Casey were into heavy drugs, she would have went through terrible withdrawla in jail when she was first arrested. She displayed no withdrawal symptoms from her phone calls during the first days and without her drug of choice, if she were a user, she would not have been able to endure all the interrogation that she went though those first few days. She would have been terribly ill from withdrawal. I have witnessed it in others first hand. There has been no mention of that in any reports. It has been reported by her friends that Casey did not use anything other than pot on occasion at first, but had increased her usage during the last 3-4 months before her arrest. Remember, Jesse Grund said she changed “like a chameleon” with whatever group she was with, to fit in. Also, not to defend her myself, but not one friend stated that Casey was a “bad mother”…..
Zak, I don’t get it either. Looked like she was going to fake kidnapping, but then calls Tony for a ride. ??? That was the 27th. The car was towed on the 30th & that’s when G&C found out about it.
Hi everyone~I watched the show at 8 but didn’t see a thread for it.
I think her contacting the Marine was a part of her kidnapping angle. If she just could have gotten him to agree to fly her out there……she would have been gone, presumed dead along with Caylee and could have started her new life.
Night everybody.
Where are you Michelle??
geniema:
I believe George says she had on a white shirt and denim skirt with hair in a ponytail and her monkey backpack. not sure about clothes, maybe someone else knows if I am not correct.
I do know he said Casey was dressed for work with dress slacks with pinstripes on them…. just a little bit too much detail for me, especially when he couldnt remember what show he was watching on food network that day and it was “his favorite show’ Also, there were no “hour long” shows on Food Network during the day at that time period.
nite J
good theory IndyDeb!!!
Geneima – don’t remember what theysaid she was wearing that day. Sorry
BJ:
re: babysitter
I remember reading that!!! What a joke! I hope she really ripped Casey a new one when she found out!!
Y’know, shyloh, maybe that pic was of Caylee. Why hasn’t there been news about the real parents coming forward to say that that is their daughter yet? Maybe they don’t know. Or maybe that’s Caylee that deceptive CA put out there! Casey’s room was plastered all over with Caylee’s pics. This was done for the recent in-home interview. Maybe CA thought up the idea as she sorted through those pics?
Caylee was last seen wearing a pink shirt, jean shorts and white sneakers.
Chrissy, those were the pinstriped pants that Cindy washed that were in the trunk.
Thanks scoobee!! for some reason i was thinking pink shirt after I posted LOL
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
I heard that she told C and G that she was paying $400 a week for childcare while she worked. That would explain to them why she always had to borrow/ steal money from them. I don’t know where I heard it so it could be true……..or not.
IndyDeb- I agree and there was also a myspace or facebook message that said Casey had contacted that person and said she was going to Canada. The military connection would have posed problems. The base is in the middle of the desert and is in no man’s land. She couldn’t live on base in those old barracks. there is a cheap motel in town, but that is about a 30 minute drive from the base.
I could see her in Vegas or Atlantic City….. Vegas is about 2 hours from the Marine base in 29 Palms.
Molly, that is exactly what I have been asking since she was arrested the last time…the news said she was wearing pinstriped dress pants…and I thought Oh Noshe didn’t….are these the same pants.. It seemed to me like a WTF moment. How many people have 2 pairs of gray pinstriped dress pants???
Sherry C., on November 22nd, 2008 at 12:26 am Said:
That is the only thing I can come up with. And no one has came forward and I still haven’t heard LE say a thing about it. Cindy was all over the place covering for Casey. Her own theories. All of them pointed away from Casey…
After watching 20/20 I remember there were Escort Services on some of Caseys Web searches that were published. Think she ever worked for one? I mean what did she actually do all day when she said she went to work, sit at the park all day with Caylee?
correct Molly! still just doesnt make sense….none of it does for that matter.
What man remembers “pinstripes” on slacks 31 days later??
Olivia, wish I had the answer to that. Again only Casey does. She has all the answers.
I heard that too about the escort service, she must have been a very bad one, to never have money.
Molly,
other than b/c those were the ones Cindy washed. Maybe in GA’s mind he was justifying something???
Or a huge slip up. Know what Im trying to say just dont know how LOL
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom, on November 22nd, 2008 at 12:33 am Said:
correct Molly! still just doesnt make sense….none of it does for that matter.
What man remembers “pinstripes” on slacks 31 days later??
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Maybe his memory was jogged when Cindy was washing those dirty smelly pants.
Unless she had a drug problem or spent it all on her many men.
May be she was stashing money to make a get away.
re: pants
how did it come to be known that the pants were even in the car and cindy had washed them? I cant recall.
I haven’t watched Greta since she went political. Does she ever cover Casey anymore??
LOL BJ
BJ: no
Zak~Maybe her plan was to get him to purchase tickets for her and Caylee. He pays for the tickets or maybe she does somehow. She never even gets on a plane. He would show up to pick her up and the two would not be there. Tickets purchased and they never show. Her car is found in Orlando with decomp and all would assume she and Caylee were carjacked or whatever on their way to the airport to go on their trip. The airline would confirm that the tickets were purchased but the two never boarded the plane. The Marine would confirm they never showed in California. All would assume both are dead and Casey could go on with her life elsewhere.
Cindy told the police that she found some pants in the car/ trunk and washed them…..the pinstriped ones.
CA told LE that she had washed a pair of gray pinstriped pants. Then KC shows up with the same desc. pants. An with a woman reporter covering the arrest, she mentioned the gray pants too.
Who is Brian, Lee’s roommate? I think this is the first time I have heard his name. If he is the same roommate, he drives the small green pickup that was in the driveway.
Another WTF moment on Cindy’s behalf….LOL
Caylee was last seen wearing a pink shirt, jean shorts and white sneakers.
When Casey said “they haven’t even found the clothes yet” it sounds to me as if the clothes are in an area that is “findable” but the body – probably not so easy to find. At least that clothes statement should do her in – if admitted to court.
ZAK …..are you kidding wow! How do you keep up ha.
Didn’t LE confiscate the pants that were washed? I thought they were sending them for testing. If so, Casey wouldn’t have had them to wear.
Indy Deb- NICE
I wonder if Cindy wishes she hadn’t made the call.
Olivia:
that “haven’t even found the clothes yet”….disturbs and baffles me. I thought she meant that as well….not hidden well…but why?
or maybe, she meant the clothes she wore to dispose of the body????
I believe so IndyDeb.
Indy Deb, that is what I was trying to figure out, but then on some tape I heard someone in LE say the computer was returned to the Ant;s
I wondered if the pants were returned too…
Zak~Is Brian the neighbor with the shovel? Brian Burner?
Yeah, I think George put those pants together with everything. That smell in the trunk. Ya just can’t get away from that one. HE KNOWS in his heart. He just can’t say. Cindy won’t allow it.
I also noticed that GA was upset that Jesse went in to talk to LE regarding the case. It sounded like GA blamed LE for getting involved. This makes me wonder how involved GA is. How much more does he know? Was he having Casey investigated himself? Tinmer55 could be 55 days; OR could refer to an “Old timer (age 55) “. Casey’s problem started 2 years ago when GA was 55.
indy- yes that is true but what shocked me is when she stated that the pants were in the trunk but that was in july than the said they were in the car only not in the trunk i wonder why would she wash them she needs to be in jail(ca)
Zak,
Brian Burner is the neighbor that loaned the shovel
correct molly, just like George saying, he told Cindy, yes, it was the pizza… He knows. She knows, too, just cant admit it.
Jadan~Yes, George said that in the FBI interview. The computers were being returned. I don’t know about the pants but wonder if they were doing testing on them, if they would even be returnable.
Zak did you see the post about timer55, being a device used by hookers…something like that I think it was BJ, or Laura…can’t remember who looked it up on the computer.
In GA’s interview he said that Lee’s roommate was Brian.
Sorry
In Cindy’s interview she said that Brian was Lee’s roommate and Casey was there alot.
Zak,
There are NO other Brian’s on the witness list.
Has anyone caught this past week during Cindy’s interviews how she constantly says there is no “concrete” evidence?
go back to the pavers, cement, concrete, whatever you want to call it, that was done around 4th of July…
think it is a play on words??
I agree, they all know. In fact I blame Cindy for coming up with the alibi – shes the one who said “who took her?” and that started the Zani kidnapping theory right there.
there is no doubt in my mind now im am at 100% certainty without doubt that caylee is dead and that KC did it and that CA helped and helped her put the story together. As far as GA in those videos he doesnt look like he is lying at all and CA does. And today with that video of ca and ga he looked like he was on crack his eyes were popping out of his head and CA looked like she was shooting herion she kept falling asleep and lifted her head with 1 response of LE is not helping she was almost wispering it it was just weird as hell
I’m having a problem with the comment GA made on the FBI interview tape, about finding a KC resume…stating for the past 2 years she had been a Nanny…curious!
Casey is the nanny was a theory that was discussed previously on here. Like a split personality thing.
Nanny Casey = oxymoron or just “moron” period
<—- needs to brush teeth, and gargle…must be offending someone. Later.
olivia-true i believe the same. In her interview she said she didnt remember what she discussed with KC in the car but she did remember what she and amy talked about but didnt remember what amy and KC said to each other either. She also knew every detail of the story that KC told her word for word like it was practiced and rehearshed with such detail.
Olivia: and Cindy telling George that day that “they lost her” they “lost” Caylee.
I need sleep. Good nite everyone…….til tomorrow.
Jadan, I believe she is the Nanny. If all the reports the LE would say “Zanny took your child?” Casey would always answer. “She is the last person I saw her with.” She never said yes or she took her. Always ” she is the last person I saw her with. I think that means to me. HERSELF.
Just MHO
Does anyone have any more searches scheduled or are the searches over now?
With there interview today how the hell were they able to go on tv like that it was crazt i think ga was drinking KC koolaide look at him
Olivia, I have always wondered why that was the first thing that Cindy asked Casey too. Who took her? It was as if she was giving her an opening to name someone else. Most people would ask “Where is she?” or “What happened”? right?
nite IndyDeb
BJ- the phychics are there they have been searching since wed. i dont know when they are leaving that is when LP will probally continue his search who knows
mfh = my filthy house?
Exactly Molly – Cindy is the driver in this crazy coverup, tragedy.
She’s an even better liar than Casey.
BJ
I think there are small searches scheduled but not sure if there are any for this weekend.
Anymore news from Gail St. John?
Molly- yes that was weird that ca said that I think that KC told her something she had to of
Oh that’s a good one Katcal, I wondered about those maggots under a mattress
Gail is keeping everything hush hush all of a sudden they have had threats and cannot tell u were they are searching ( the guy from the BS website)
olivia-true about ca she even told the fbi that she is crazy LOL i think i almose peed myself when i heard that one.
LOL Sheila B and Kat
I think that Casey refering to herself as a Nanny is just more of her lies and a cool thing she thought to put on her resume’.
It’s just a shame the police didn’t know she was missing right from the start so they could have Really searched the landfill. By the time they found out a month had passed and it would have been almost impossible to find her.
As to stealing from the piggy, can’t say I’ve ever done that!
Shyloh, Agree. I always thought that was a strange answer too. Well, not really answering the question at all.
Yeah, Casey was Caylee’s nanny. (in her head). Every day, Caylee was with the nanny. yep
oops. piggy bank
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
I haven’t paid any attention to the phychic’s searches. There were over 4,000 tips from phychic’s and I’m not sure what to think about them. I know there are some good ones, though I think most are fakes. And they are hard to sort out.
stealing from a piggy bank doesn’t concern me but Not putting your child first really does.
I want to hurl when I hear Cindy make that Lee comment about LE not protecting and serving…..WTH do they think they are doing??? oh, I forgot, nothing… just what casey did. Wasn’t Casey the one that was ultimately supposed to be protecting and serving Caylee??
Teresa Van Wert,
You have got to stop peeing your pants and shootin’ yourself. Chill out
One would typically not steal from a kid’s piggy bank if one put a child first.
BJ, same here. I was not about to read all 50,000 of those tips..heh I believe in some of them as well, but for the most part they just want some of the spotlight.
Olivia, I keep thinking about that landfill too. LP was focused on there too.
Too bad so much time has gone by.
Also how Cindy said she lied to 911 to get them to her house faster. NOOOOOOOOO that is not true. She was in a panic. Now why is she lying??? Cindy cindy cindy. Before she got home I believe she wanted to drive Casey to the police station to be arrested..
shyloh thats right. she did go to a sheriff’s dept but they were closed…??!! and she was not in the right precinct for her address….
George may not have been able to actually see Caylee in the trunk, I believe she was in a trash bag. But I think now he realizes that Caylee was in the trunk .
There was really no reason any Grand Father would jump to the conclusion that their Grand Daughter was dead and stashed in the trunk of the car, at that time he was probably caught by surprise seeing the gas cans and thought that Casey was acting weird because she stole them and got cought again. ???
One would typically not steal from a kid’s piggy bank if one put a child first.
Agreed Kat – I mentioned this because of the way it was portrayed as such a Big deal on NG tonight.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
I wonder how many lies she can tell and think she can get by with it? That just floors me.
Yes Casey is the nanny
YIKES! I have stolen from my children’s piggy bank. MYBAD.
shyloh: it is amazing.
I think someone rally told Cindy to zip it or she could possibly looking at charges herself.
Could be why Nejame pulled out.
Sorry, think I gave wrong timeline on when they got the car. Was it after the 30th when it was towedor July 15th? Anyone remember?
So many on this blog have said what they would do if Casey were their daughter. Mostly they want to slap the crap out of her, have her spend the rest of her life in prison or rot in Hell and so forth and so on.
If she was my daughter I don’t know if I could ever look at her again knowing what she had done to my grand daughter. But would I want her to spend the rest of her life in prison? May be not. I might try to convince everyone that she wasn’t guilty to keep her from the dangers that she would face in prison for the rest of her life. Especially if I felt guilty for what she had done. Cindy is doing what she has to do IMO.
towed on the 30th
I dont understand in the video of Cindy nodding off…at the end, when George was asked if he wanted to say anything regarding Caylee, he just said if anyone thinks they have spotted Caylee to call “them” not LE. Why would he not BEG, PLEAD, SCREAM, CRY to the ‘kidnappers” to bring Caylee home if they truly believe she is alive?? Not once have they “addressed” the “kidnappers”….b/c they know there is none
towed on 30th p/u on 15th
oliva there was a case where a man named Michael Blagg murdered his wife and daughter and disposed of them in a dumpster at his work. The LE, pinpointed where in the landfill that dumpster had been dumped and after 5 months his wife was recovered. It was very grusome but the police searche untill they found the wife , the 11 year old daughter was never recovered.
There is still hope for Caylee’s body to be found.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
Yes I agree. She really does. Notice George is doing all the talking here lately. Well so far.
good point BJ, especially if Cindy feels guilty herself for some reason in having a part in this. We can all speculate what we would do if something tragic were to happen, but we do not really know until it happens.
Bj .. I agree it would be devistating … but how could you let her walk and maybe kill again ?
arleen.
I watched a documentary about landfills. It was so interesting. Much more goes on there than just pulling up and dumping garbage. They can pinpoint where every dumpster has been emptied. It was amazing.
arleen, on November 22nd, 2008 at 1:25 am Said:
Bj .. I agree it would be devistating
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I would see to it that she had her tubes tied and never had another child
She should never been forced to raise Caylee….she didn’t want to be a mother. That was the problem.
I just couldn’t look back and remember my daughter as a wonderful, sweet little girl and then be happy that she was being sent to prison, under any circumstances.
I feel Cindy knows just what happened and thats why she isn’t desperate to locate the child like most grandparents would be. She knows already. As soon as she found out she immediately began her campaign to save Casey and coverup her horrible mistakes.
Thanks Chrissy ! That blows one of my theory’s about talking to Casey after smelling the car. Oh well….
About the interview – Couldn’t believe Cindy didn’t say ANYTHING. Strange.
One of the other considerations, according to Padilla, is how a continued search for Caylee would affect the jury at Casey Anthony’s trail, set for January. “If we continue to look for a living child, when we have all the evidence to the contrary, it can be used as a way to cast doubt on the jury,” he says. “We can be accused of still following leads and tips — so, the defense can claim we must think the girl is alive. The Anthonys, apparently, are trying to keep the doubt going– in that way, they can help save their daughter.”
i copied the last comment. Keep forgetting to say that.
I know it would be hard but she would still be your daughter and although painful as a mother you would most likely be there ..
and I would just like to say, if I could, please do not judge me b/c I said my husband died a drug abuser. He was a wonderful father and husband until he had a back injury and became addicted to pain medication. he was in and out of treatment for it, but continued to go to drs that were not interested in treating him, just drugging him. He had surgery and everything went downhill from there. When one thinks of drug abuser , they think of homeless, junkies, strung out and so forth. this was not the case with my husband. It was a demon he could not beat. He made bad choices, but I just didn’t want anything to reflect on me from the statement that I made. I usually keep things like that private, but the question i posted to pulled up those memories and I let it out. I am a nurse, but am now a stay at home mom with 2 beautiful daughters. this case has intrigued me from the beginning as it has all of you. I think the most fascinating thing about it is that Caylee will remain this beautiful little girl and has brought all of us together to meet and converse.
I also post on other “nice” boards and have my own website. I thank you for the opportunity to join you in discussion tonight….
What is your website? Nice to have you join us
Molly: what was your theory??
BJ – agree. That’s why Cindy had the big falling out with Tim Miller.
BJ…
LOL it is nothing special just ramblings on and such..if you click on my name it will take you there
do not make fun of it or i’ll whack ya! LOL
Chrissy – sorry for your loss & pain.
Chrissy aka SpoiledMom,
I like many of the same things that you do. I’ll be back to have a better look later.
food for thought:
I studied pre-law in college and am aware of Double Jeapordy, its late and im tired and this may be stupid…LOL
say casey is found guilty of 1st degree murder, all the evidence points to a “death”, we all agree on that pretty much. months from now caylee shows up…. what then? is casey released and or held and new trial for same evidence to find out who was decomposing in the trunk???
now i know if she is found not guilty and caylee’s body is found, she gets away with murder, literally.
this is far fetched i know but just wondering…..
Thanks Molly and BJ
I had forgotten that they didn’t get the car until the 15th. Cindy had stated that she talked to Casey daily & I posted before about why she didn’t bring up the car smell ealier. Kind of stupid, I’ve been following this case all along. Brain clouds.
Anyway, G’nite all. I’ve really enjoyed chatting tonight!
molly..not stupid at all
enjoyed chatting with you..hope to again!
Goodnight – I’m off to bed too.
food for thought
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That’s a whole new ballgame
Or………what if Casey was sentenced to death and THEN Caylee showed up. What then.
thats what im wondering…..just gets more and more juicier….
thats what im wondering…..just gets more and more out there.. I would love for Caylee to show up, though!
dont know how i did a double post
we were all wondering what casey did all day…she was on the phone and texting!!
good grief what was the number of texts?? it was astronomical
i just had to have a talk with my daughter b/c she had 500 in a month in a half!!! geez
Hey, everybody! WOW! I take a day to go shopping, and I come home with all this new evidence to sort through!! What a day!
if you’re still out there BJ, goodnite!! gonna go listen to crazy Cindy’s tapes. insomniac…… nice chatting with you and thank you for welcoming me.
I don’t think she is alive and I don’t think G and C do either…. No matter what they say. I really hope that something comes out at the trial that leads to the truth about what really happened. No matter how bad it is I think C and G need to have some closure. It would be awful if Casey were sentenced to life in prison and C and G were left hanging for the rest of their lives not knowing. They need closure and the rest of us that have followed this case do too.
I think G&C need to wake up and smell the coffee…
Night Chrissy aka SpoiledMom
I could not listen to much of Cindy. Was there anything new she said, or was it just her giving her take on what kind of code Casey was speaking in?
Hey,
Everyone seems to have left.
Elaine
BJ,
I feel the same! that would be terrible for C and G to never know the truth, but you know the saying…you reap what you sow. For all their lies…..
That is a terrible terrible thought. I pray they have closure on this and finally find the truth if they do not know it already.
i was getting ready to sign off when you replied….
Well, then it’s just you & me, friend… (Do I sound like NG?)
g’nite!
Was there anything new in Cindy’s story? I really wanted to see the FBI agents stop her, but I could watch any more. I really do not like that woman…
Cindy…..same old spin…..Casey didn’t kill Caylee……she just won’t admit to the fact that there is anything wrong with her daughter. I heard that the first tape is boring and just about missing kids or sightings. I haven’t watched that but have seen all the rest of C and G both. Feel very sorry for George. Cindy, too, truth be known.
Elaine,
Did you mean friend or fiend
I tried to watch Cindy, I just couldn’t stand it very long. Now George, I just want to cry when I hear him tell what he knows.
Oh, that’s right…..you’re the FIEND
He seems to have a self-esteem problem… don’t you think?
I’ve been moderated all day…..for really dumb things that don’t make any sense.
Were you Xmas, or should I say Holiday, shopping?
I didn’t get a chance to read all of tonight’s comments. I always try to, but because I got home late and then listened to GA, I just didn’t get the chance to go through everyone’s disscussions.
Well, Thanksgiving shopping mostly… I got all new placemats & stuff, then the dinner stuff, and we ate out.
But, uh, yeah, Christmas shopping is coming up!
George seems like a very honorable man. I think he loves her and knows what this is doing to her and is trying to wear two hats. Good husband and honest witness.
Geez, look at the time! I probably won’t be here much longer.
Yes, I think he is too. It’s just sad to see him trying to take care of a family that is so screwed up.
Hi all! Haven’t visited this site in a long time–good to see it’s still going! Does anyone know if these two interviews constituted the entire 5 DVDs that were released today or if there is something more…?
Not to mention that Cindy won’t allow him to be the man in the family. Did you hear him say that some people think Cindy is controlling?????
Duh!
B..News!! You are our legal eagle!!
I have a Thanksgiving story. I always make the turkey, stuffing and gravy at my son’s. A few years ago my son’s mother in law grabbed the turkey pan, dumped all the drippings down the sink, added lots of water and Durkee Turkey Gravy mix. I thought I was gonna die
Now when the turkey comes out of the pan I chain the drippings pan to my body and don’t let anyone near it until I have made MY gravy.
Elaine!!! You are still here! Wonderful! So happy to see some familiar names!
My, I didn’t even know there were 5 DVDs released! I’ve been gone all day and just got on here long enough to hear George’s story. I tried to listen to Cindy, but she just irks me.
BJ,
You Go Girl!!
Yes….she is obviously a basket-case!!…to say the least!
You know, I can empathize with her but for heaven’s sake… What is that woman thinking? Is there anyone that can bring her back down to earth?
BJ,
What do you know about 5 DVDs?
B..News,
Someone was asking about what would happen if Casey were convicted of murder 1, got the DP, and then Caylee showed up… Would there be a new trial to find out who the decomp belonged to? I know that’s a screwed up question, but what say you?
Hi Nancy
Love your show you have me addicted to it and you
Thx for what you do and congrats on your twins
I watched the movie “Untraceable” tonight because of your show and wondered if Casey got any ideas from the movie!
Casey probably watched it before th night she rented it and am wondering the cement, blades, battery acid and one more thing not sure
Wondering if she could have disposed of Caylee’s body by any of these means and the body could be untraceable since so many people can not find the body?
I am from Canada and the cement I thought of the Paul Bernardo case here where he dismembered Leslie Mahaffy’s body and then put it in a lake in Canada
I am sure the experts have looked at all this but just in case I wanted to maybe help
I feel so sorry for the grandparent’s I know denial is so powerful and yes I do believe their daughter is a killer and Caylee is no longer with us!
I hope so but have been following the story from the beginning and well!
Do you think my above thoughts re the movie could have been anything she could have done and that is why the body is not being found??
PS
I love thrillers but found that movie disturbing but I am sure Casey did not!
Cheers
Linda
Yes I feel sorrow for both G & C….G is obviously a bit more in touch with the ‘outside world’ but I’m sure it is difficult for them to comprehend what their daughter is capable of. I really don’t think either of them have anything to do with any sort of cover-up, etc……I think that at this point, they don’t know what to do except to defend, defend, defend
Cindy gave Casey permission and keys to use her car the day that GA followed Casey. Cindy told GA to stay out of the investigating because he wasn’t a detective any longer. Cindy said she always drove past the intersection of Amscot. Cindy said NO ONE opened the trunk when and after it was towed. Therefore, did Cindy open the trunk before it was towed and place the pizza box in there? This also eliminates the possibiity of the Ants or defense saying someone opened the trunk at the tow yard!!!
Cindy claimed all of the stains in the car were there before, and all of the family had access to the car. This is because she knew how the DNA was going to come back and was trying to explain it in advance.
Elaine, Ha!! Funny question. But if that happened…IF…. she would be exonerated
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — Five DVD’s of videotaped interviews with George and Cindy Anthony conducted by the FBI were released Friday. In the interviews, FBI agents questioned George and Cindy about their daughter’s lies.
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Looks like they have all been released. I know they weren’t all released at the ssame time. More kept showing up through the day.
I’m not sure it could be called a cover-up, but Cindy is certainly in denial, and the way she keeps trying to implicate others kind of ticks me off. I am her age, and I think it is time she grew up…
B…News,
But what about the decomp in the trunk… Would they be able to try her for that, or would that constitute double jeopardy?
BJ,
Thanks. It was a lot. I know I watched all of George and it took forever!! I just couldn’t watch much of Cindy. I would have liked to see the FBI agents stop her in her tracks. I don’t suppose that happened…?
Elaine, That would not constitute double jeopardy if it were a different victim…. but considering the DNA evidence, that is pretty much out of the question!
Zak, you snuck up on me. Guess who’s back!! Breaking News!
I don’t feel that Cindy had anything to do with it, but I was surprised to hear that she was at home when Casey took her SUV… George made it sound innocent, but then she eluded him and he didn’t understand that part.
Yeah, that’s true. There is apparently no good dna. They are now saying it may only be fluids with no cellular material in it….
Elaine,
Did you see “We” is back, too?
I agree about Cindy being in denial to the point of aggravation. But I just don’t know who would be willing to hit her hard with it–she seems pretty fragile and nuts at this point…
So what do you all think about the fact that Jose Garcia spent what, 7 hours with Casey awhile back? I wonder if that was an attempt to talk to her about dealing…
Also, the witness list was funny… Prosecution 82 / Defense 3 … sounds like a bad basket ball game.
Hi all
I am new to this blogging if Nancy does not read this can any of you help me on what my thoughts are
Thx
Linda
BJ,
Who is WE? YOU & ME?
Welllll it’s about time you all showed up
People have been asking for you!
Just jumped on here for a moment. Will be gone again in a flash. But was wondering if you saw the link I put uplast night of the media interview with geo. and cin….. she dosen’t speak……..keeps her head down.and is pretty much nodding out the whole time. Really took me aback. I didn’t think that there was and medication that could keep her quiet when a camera was near by.
Linda,
Nancy does not read this blog.
I know I have said this on this blog before, but I will repeat: “Circumstantial evidence” is stronger than “scientific evidence” in that the science must be interpreted by a person/people, who really can be wrong sometime. However, what are the chances that ALL of these “circumstances” are merely a coincidence???
2shado,
Super Duper Zoloft?
No chance in my opinion. And we can’t forget that we are speaking of a 2-yr. old child. Mommy put in her resume that she was a nanny…
Hi Linda——-welcome!!!! I don’t think Nancy (NG–as we refer to her as) reads this blog. I don’t know what thoughts were but will take a look.
I’m probobly not the best one to ask though. I’m not much into theories and all that stuff.
Casey was a nanny…??? Pissshhhhaaaa! She could barely take care of herself and her own child!
Elaine————with a side or morphine.
I just hope that the jury does not throw common sense out of the window….
Yeah, but that’s what she put in her resume… Nanny. George said he confronted her about it because he knew she had never been a nanny. But now it looks like she may have considered herself a nanny more than a mother…
George Anthony said this was one of many things that he made him suspicious about Casey’s employment, but what he said was even stranger he saw a resume of Casey’s, no mention of universal, instead she said she was a nanny. “I confronted her about that I said why is this and she said dad this is what I was thinking about doing and I said why would you put it down on a resume it makes no sense.”
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This, IMP, says that Casey was planning on going to work. She had nothing to put on the resume, since she didn’t work, so she said that she was a nanny. She could write a letter of recommendation for herself. This type of a job couldn’t really be tracked. She would have to tell a future employer that she had done something for the last couple of years. I wonder when George saw the resume?
B.. News,
That’s what I’m hoping. PLLLLLEEEEAAASE let them find 12 people with COMMON SENSE!
2shado,
She’s a nurse you know… she may not even need a dr…
Linda,
I didn’t mean to be rude. What are your thoughts?
BJ,
I’m wondering if this is something LE already knew, because it would have been on her hard drive…
Elaine, on November 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 am Said:
No chance in my opinion. And we can’t forget that we are speaking of a 2-yr. old child. Mommy put in her resume that she was a nanny…
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Did you read what I thought this meant??
LE knows everything that is on her hard drive. Bet Lee does, too
BJ,
I was responding to Breaking News. He asked what chance is there that all the circumstatial evidence was just coincidence?
Elaine
A nanny for 2 years, and Caylee was 2 years- almost 3. Casey never felt like the mother of Caylee because like GA said, “She (Caylee) was with us all the time. We provided everything”. All Casey had to do was provide for herself, by helping herself to Cindy’s account. Cindy wanted the baby, Casey wanted adoption. Cindy was the first to hold Caylee. Casey being antisocial, did not bond with Caylee. She felt the responsibility, but not the motherly love for her child.
BTW- In the earlier released LE docs, there is a page that says the psychiatrist eval showed “antisocial behavior disorder. There is no comments on that page other than the diagnosis comment.
Yeah, I heard them say that Lee is an accountant. Is that what you’ve heard? I didn’t know he was an accountant.
Linda——————-the only thing I can speak to re your que / comment is ………..Caylee not being found….. Take a look at Google map…satellite view of Orlando Fl. you will see the many, many bodies of water…and open areas. Secondly so much time had passed. And, also, so much time had passed before LE was informed that searching the trash dump sites would be futile at best.
That’s all I know
Zak,
Are you talking about psychiatrist reports in evidence released before today? I may have missed that one.
Elaine,
Yes,
Other people missed it too, so when I mention the disorder, they ask where it is stated.
2shado,
Did you listen to all of Cindy’s stuff released today?
Yep, Elaine……..know she is nurse. But can’t write scrips unless a nurse Practitioner……right.
Yikes. Whaaaat kind of shape will she be in while omn the stand?? The house of cards is in collapse mode.
Zak,
I had heard that discussed on the NG show, but I don’t remember a report. It was done in July, correct? I didn’t start blogging until Sept. I’ll have to look for that!
Elaine———–noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
2shado,
Says who? Cindy is not the most honest person on the face of this earth. I know it would be illegal, but I know enough to write scripts, and I only worked in a pharmacy for 6 years. I never went to college.
Elaine……………. I’ll have to take some of cin’s Zoloft in order to listen to her!!!
Only listened to about 25 min of geo’s #7. That was enough for me.
Elaine—————Thay’s right she WOULD know abiout the code that is needed, huh. hmmmmm
I listened to all of George’s. That man can break my heart when he tries to explain the difference between what he knows and what he doesn’t want to know.
2shado,
Maybe Cindee has something on the buggy that would help?
B…News,
Did you hear the latest about Kid Finders?
Cindy and her red flags and day 1s. The red flags are always used to throw blame on LE or another person- never Casey. She acknowledges that she knows what decomp smells like and then tries to point the investigation in another direction.
That’s it for me folks. Gotta get off this thing now before I have dreams of the comings and goings in Bizarro land.
Goodnight all! Sleep well
Zak,
Just blows my mind how she takes over the conversations and corrects the authorities when they don’t see things her way…
‘Night, 2shado!
Even GA was trying to implicate Jesse… I don’t know how he takes it!
She doesn’t realize how her message is being received by other people. She is so concentrated on herself and her own agenda.
You’ve got that right. She is, has always been, and will always be concerned with Cindy and Cindy only. It is a very sad picture.
I feel bad for Jesse because I think he has a good heart and good intentions. He is being exploited by these horrible family. They need to leave him alone. Amy is another one they try throwing under the bus.
Elaine….you mean about KF founde??
Do you think Casey’s attorneys are beginning to think along the lines of a plea deal? The FBI agent told GA that Baez was more concerned about himself and how this case will end than anything else. Like, he only wants to win this case. I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance.
I wonder if today was the first time that C knew everything that G said to LE in his interview. He’s probably at Motel 6 tonight.
And C said that Jeff Hopkins was “Generic” for boyfriend?? Where does she come up with this crap?
Yes, BN,
Kid Finders Network, Dennis Milstead…
If Mallory is truly pregnant, she better high-tail it to another state!!! Get away from these crazies because they aren’t going to change. In fact, they will only get worse unless they get professional help.
GA is a big liar as well as Cindy. IF CA and GA and Casey are liars, you can bet that Lee is one also.
No I didnt hear….what happened elaine??
BJ,
I’m thinking today is the first day, unless LE warned George and he told her in advance. He even told them that he had told them things that the rest of the family don’t know.
Dennis Milstead has a lot of legal problems. I think the worst was when he impersonated an officer… 3rd degree felony, reduced to misdemeanor. Oh, you have to watch the video!!!!!
Zak, I’ve been thinking that’s why Lee is keeping a low profile. To protect Mallory.
Did Lee and Mallory break up or is it a rumor?
Apparently we are being moderated when we post a web address.
WFTV has the video of their reporters confronting Milstead and demanding answers. He was dumbfounded. You gotta see it. It was Nov. 18.
BJ,
I heard that, then nothing for a long time. Then someone was saying they are back together, so I don’t know how true it is, but I was thinking it could be his motivation for staying out of sight.
I’m watching NG again and watching the G tapes and I’m surprised at the things that G disclosed. Information that he didn’t have to give; facts that he wasn’t asked about directly..
You can post links if you leave off the h – - – . / / and you don’t really need that part anyway.
They told him they just wanted him to talk, tell them what he knows, and then they may have a couple of questions. It was a pretty good interview, but I think it was nearly 3 hours long. (or a little less)
LP is on now. What’s up with his polygraph…..and exactly what are they going to ask him about?
Elaine, on November 22nd, 2008 at 3:16 am Said: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Thanks BJ.
Breaking News!
wftv.com/video/18001358/index.html
You know what? I heard he was supposed to be polygraphed on Wednesday, but I never heard if it actually happened. I was on Rob’s site yesterday and there was nothing there then.
I just went back to Rob’s site, and there is still nothing there about the polygraph. But Rob hasn’t been there to answer questions much since the thing at JBP.
I am getting flooded with the same incoming emails repeating at about 5 minute intervals.
SPAM????
centredaily.com/479/story/978244.html
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2008
SEARCHING FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY
All hope not lost
State College woman joins effort to find missing girl
=
experiences of a searcher.
Every 5 minutes my emails for the day are coming through with the original time stamp on them. I ahve already deleted 30 copies of each email.
these emails are not spam
What do you mean Zak?
Every email that was sent to me today (7 good ones and 5 junk ones) are coming through every 5 minutes with the original time stamp on them. I have deleted over 400 emails tonight. This started about an hour or so ago.
BJ,
That was a nice article.
It is getting ‘way past my sleepytime. I need to be up before kickoff at noon tomorrow, which is 8-1/2 hrs from now. I’ll catch y’all next time. ‘Night…
Zak,
Does it stop if you log out of your email, or does it keep coming even then?
Night Elaine
I ran AVG antivirus. I wonder if my email got hijacked or just jacked!!
Better run your spyware
I’m running mine right now. Started as soon as you said you were having problems.
I never really log out. my email is connected with Outlook
Run your scans and if it doesn’t stop, contact your email service provider. It sounds like there is a “loop” command to keep sending them.
‘Night, for real!
Actually my antivirus runs at 10:00 PM every night, and that is when i started having problems!
Elaine,
Thx and good nite
Very strange. Try restarting your comp
I have had times when I couldn’t type certain letters so I couldn’t enter passwords. Took me awhile to figure out why. Some letters just wouldn’t take. Restarted and then it was okay. Happened more than once. I have a real love hate relationship with my computer.
I think the strangest thing about Cindy is that she tells these detailed lies that Casey made up (I suspect Cindy helped) and she acknowledges that they are not true. I don’t know how this guy could handle listening to her lies for such a long time. I would feel like I was wasting my time listening to her. I probably would have told her that the lies don’t help to find Caylee.
Nite! Tomorrow is another day!
Ok- Need some legal back up right now–
Hubby and I just heatedly debated double jeopardy etc..
If Casey is found not guilty on murder charges, can she be tried for “child endangerment” etc. charges in the future.
He vehemetly disagrees with me and says if she is found not guilty she is free of any accountability as a mother to Caylee– how can anyone be free of any responsibility????
I am so disturbed right now
When both George and Cindy talk about Caylee- talking about the drums, singing etc. they get so animated, proud and excited, so sad.
(Cindy did manage to turn that part of the investigation into her– so again the whole scenario is confusing)
Ok- In the Cindy interview- Amy Z had a package shipped to Cindy and George’s– Cindy asked why??– reminder— she thought she would be moving in because Casey lied saying it was going to be her house- (this triggered Cindy to finally find Casey)
Casey got in way too deep – regardless of what happened — she knows what happened!!
TIMER 55 is a phone number
(407) 846-3755 Sean Ross Ferrell
214 N. Vernon
Kissimmee, FL.
I have seen this name before…………….
Is TIMER 55 Sean Ross Ferrell the “Raquel Ferrell” that is in the Zanni story?
Wow Zak! I just researched timer 55 and did not even find that. I never heard the name mentioned.
chrissy aka spoiled momn – i think it was 10:24 post, I DO remember GA saying his gas cans were small, and i did hear him say $50.. i was trying to figure out which price of gas he was using to get it to add up to that. Those being such small cans are part of the problem why I think casey needed more gas and/or another gas can.
oh Zak, you’re getting the supersleuth award!!! Wow!
Is anybody watching cindys body language? How comfortable she is while she’s on one of her long stories.. crossing her legs, shoe on and off – but whenever the investigator starts to talk she looks down, gets real busy with her book.. just interesting to watch.
why oh why don’t i have one of those body language books here?
with that “book” cindy keeps looking at, i almost have to wonder if at some point, did she and casey sit down and write out that “script”??
mia, I noticed from her body language she wants the FBI to listen to what she has to say, but doesnt want to har them. She knows casey did something in her heart of hearts she does.
right #1 – she wants to be in total control and gets quite irritated when she’s made to listen. I’m quite convinced if she had some kind of psych eval, would be labeled a pathological liar. The way she can go in such great detail and invent and go off on tangents and we know she’s lying…
and that’s why i think she looked so bad on that GA interview. She had probably just been told these tapes were going to be released. If I were her, I’d have taken some calm me down medicine too.
Can you tell I’ve already had cappucino? Love to drink it but don’t know how to spell it.
mia, Laura: absolutely!
And both of them complaining about the minutes ticking away….. They have to be reminded that the time lost was 31 days earlier, and because of Casey. That brings Cindy back to earth for about one second, before she throws that concept out the window and goes back to trying to find something meaningful in Casey’s “hints.”
Hi Logical! Bye Logical I gotta do to work, Ill bbl
go to work (sorry)
Hi mia ! BYE mia
Does anyone think the reason Biaz wants to go through the internal findings is because if Judge says they have to turn them over and prosecution says no the judge can dismiss the case like the judge did with Drew Peterson on the firearm issue?
anyone here?
Mia—good morning
Logical—hi
maybe she didn’t have the car stands. Maybe she sold those for $$ Wonder if we were to ask GA today if when he got the car were the stands in there? Oh Casey, if you would only open your flipping mouth and put your daughter to rest and tell where she is…
Slew of sightings reported, but still no Caylee Anthony
Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writer
November 22, 2008
The picture released Friday shows a brown-haired, round-faced little girl playing with other children at a playground inside Florida Mall. A similar-looking child was spotted at a grocery store in Gainesville earlier this month.
Could either be Caylee Marie Anthony? The answer so far, to these and similar sightings, has been no.
People from across the country continue to send tips and pictures to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and the Anthony family, claiming to have spotted Caylee.
Sheriff’s officials won’t say how many tips they have received, but the family regularly mentions new ones.
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The Caylee Anthony case: From the beginning
TV Guy Hal Boedeker’s commentary on the Casey Anthony case coverage Caylee, whose 3rd birthday was in August, has not been seen since June. Her mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, is charged with killing her. Because of that, sheriff’s detectives no longer investigate such tips.
Grandparents still hope
Still, grandparents George and Cindy Anthony remain hopeful they will find the girl alive.
“Every lead that we have, that we are still investigating, gives the Anthonys hope that Caylee Marie is still alive,” Michelle Bart, the family spokeswoman, said Friday. “We hope to bring her home soon.”
They urge anyone with information to call their hotline. As of Friday afternoon, no one had called to say they recognized the child in the latest photo.
Earlier this month, Caylee was thought to have been spotted in a Gainesville grocery store. The tipster called the Crimeline number in Orlando to report the sighting, but after getting what they saw as an inadequate response, turned to the Anthonys for help, Bart said.
Gainesville police tracked down the little girl and found she was not Caylee. The family had to produce a birth certificate along with photo albums as proof that she was their child, said Deputy Carlos Padilla, an Orange sheriff’s spokesman.
“We are no longer looking for a live child,” Padilla said of his agency. “All of the evidence that we have indicates that she is dead, and we are confident that that is the case, unfortunately.”
The Anthony family is thankful that the Gainesville police followed up on the tip, Bart said.
Concern for other kids
While the Anthonys hold out hope, others worry that other children are being dragged into the case.
Orange Sheriff Kevin Beary has received e-mails from residents concerned about images of young children broadcast and published, Padilla said.
One woman from Mississippi wrote to Beary and begged that he put an end to it, Padilla said. Her e-mail warned of child predators or pornographers manipulating the photos of thechildren.
“If I were a parent I would be sick to think my child had been displayed on the Internet,” the woman wrote. “To have these innocent children publicly interjected into this case is wrong and absolutely can not happen. Please help.”
Bianca Prieto can be reached at bprieto@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5620.
WFTV
GEORGE, CINDY TELL DIFFERENT STORIES
FBI interrogations expose George and Cindy Anthony and their stories are drastically different, especially when it came to Casey’s abandoned car.
Two weeks after Cindy found out her granddaughter was missing and called deputies to arrest her daughter Casey, she was defending Casey to the FBI. She said Casey is smart enough not to leave self-incriminating evidence behind in her car trunk and, Cindy said, if it were her she’d have run the car into a river or off a cliff.
“I find it very hard to believe that Caylee, Casey had an opportunity to put Caylee in there for a short period of time to get the car stench that bad and take her somewhere else,” Cindy told investigators during the July 30 questioning.
But her husband George told the FBI the very next day that Casey’s story makes no sense.
“There’s little threads of truth in all these little lies she’s telling, I know it, but we just can’t get it together,” George said.
FBI special agent Scott Bolin’s interview with George revealed something never heard before, what Casey told her parents during a jail visit about how the mysterious nanny kidnapped Caylee.
“Zanny is supposed to be the person that knocked her down and took her kid in front of witnesses, but we have no witnesses that say this happened outside of her,” he said.
But George admitted that Caylee never ever mentioned Zanny the Nanny even though she often spoke of others she knew well.
“If you asked her, ‘Did you have a good time with Zanny today?’ There was never any brightness or anything like that come through her.
“There was no recognition on her part?” Bolin asked.
“No, none whatsoever,” George replied.
If George and Cindy were watching news reports about the FBI videos, it would be the first time they saw what the other said to investigators. Eyewitness News asked George on Friday about the contradictory public comments he makes about Caylee being alive and the private comments revealed Friday.
George admitted he and Cindy were not always on the same page regarding Caylee. He wouldn’t talk on camera, but he also said he keeps a journal of everything he tells investigators to keep the story
Hi Sway
I loved what Jane Valdez said…”the truth is dead in that home.” The whole family has lied and kept things from one another. And still do.
Hi caryn
Every time an interview is released…it just confirms what I have thought about this family from the very beginning…
It is all so sad and yet so utterly sickening at the same time.
“Zanny is supposed to be the person that knocked her down and took her kid in front of witnesses, but we have no witnesses that say this happened outside of her,” he said.
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Why would anyone believe this story … at first Nanny was the baby sitter and she moved away with her and Left No Forwarding Address , changed her phone number etc.
????
I know it. It’s very sad. Did you watch the interview tapes? I wanted to jump off my balcony listening to Cindy. And then the round and round just made me very tired. I fell asleep near the end of the third one, sitting on the floor in front of my laptop leaning against my couch, and woke up sometime after 2am.
Arleen~
Remember early on when Casey was released on bond (the first time) with Padilla, she changed her story to the kidnapping at JBP. Cindy confirmed this new story on air.
I believe Casey changed her story right around the time LE told her that they have checked the cameras at Sawgrass that show she wasn’t there and couldn’t have dropped Caylee off there.
LoL! Yes, when Cindy goes on and on …she does put one to sleep…It is almost like she is telling you a bedtime story !!!
It’s like she just talks and talks, and the saddest thing of all is it doesn’t even seem like she’s going on in order to convince the listener, but more as if she’s trying to convince herself.
The gag order cannot come quick enough for me…I really feel for all the people mentioned above… whose children are being placed on national tv …”claiming their children are Caylee”. It is WRONG for the Anthonys to demand that media put thses photos out there.
I think the photo takers might mean well, but it is out of control to go to the media and release these photos without confirming with LE first.
This is the turn the Anthonys have now taken since they have fired everyone and have never gone through the proper channels with LE…IMO
Caryn~ You couldn’t be more correct…Cindy is trying to convince herself.
I agree, Sway. If I had a child and her pic was put up on the internet without my knowledge or consent, I would be LIVID.
SherryC~ I agree…the truth has been absent in that home a very long time…Not sure if it ever exisited there actually ?
They lived their lives as if it was normal to lie to each other all the time and then they defended their actions as to why they lied !
It boggles my mind.
The best part is …They think the public, LE, FBI, etc,. are dumb enough to think that they are not lying NOW too !
sway, the Anthonys love to insult our intelligence. They live in a delusional realm because of the lying they practice. They don’t realize that sane people can see right through them.
I don’t doubt that when Casey slept in her mommy’s room that CA and her were brainstorming a scenario. That’s probably where the kidnapping by force in JBP came from. They wrote the script to follow the script.
sway, on November 22nd, 2008 at 11:10 am Said:
“This is the turn the Anthonys have now taken since they have fired everyone and have never gone through the proper channels with LE…IMO”
OR Sway…everyone has resigned, that has taken up with the Anthonys! That in itself is so telling.
Sherry C: I agree with you!
When CA and CA …(:-)) stayed in the same room together, they were conjuring up a story. And, CA actually had the nerve to tell everyone this on camera.
These people insult our intelligence every step of the way.
After the “they haven’t even found her clothes” remark from Casey..well to me, it is all over. She cooked her goose.
I have and am listening to Cindy interview number 3 once again.
Oh geez,
Everyone is lying but Casey is giving clues.
Poor Amy is thrown so under the bus!
Cindy Anthony has bi-polar disorder.
I swear she does.
Under stress she is clearly in a manic phase during this interview.
Hey everybody! Im tying to do some catching up here……when did Casey make this “they havnt even found her clothes” comment? To who, when , context? I cant find it!
So this is Monkeymania now? Now I’m craving Chunky Monkey……..
Irish, Casey made that statement to Padilla’s guard when she was transporting Casey to her probation officer. Casey just blurted it out at the time of the first search. What’s chunky monkey?
Irish, Sherry C.- I know I heard that comment was made to one of Padilla’s peeps. I just don’t put a whole lotta creedance into it, ya know? Kinda sounds like a good example of hearsay.
Oh my, you never heard of Chunky Monkey? It’s a Ben and Jerry’s ice cream flavor….banana ice cream with chocolate chunks and walnuts….seriously, I’m going to the store soon…..
I’ve done a complete turn on Padilla, don’t believe him at all anymore….oh well
I go back and forth on Padilla…..sometimes he seems very credible and other times I think he is grandstanding and likes the camera.
Does anyone know what he is going to be asked when he takes the polygraph……and when is this going to happen?
I go back and forth on Padilla…..sometimes he seems very credible and other times I think he is grandstanding and likes the camera.
Does anyone know what he is going to be asked when he takes the polygraph……and when is this going to happen?
I will be back a little later…Caylee and I are going to the mall.
for some chunky monkey
DQ,
So I’m not the only one that feels like I’m joined at the hip to this case
caryn, methinks you’re right. This is a statement that could have been said alot sooner, if true.
BJ,
I am not only joined at the hip…my mind is goo over this.
If I blabber at times it because I am a Caylee addict.
I can’t get over this.
I really like the surveys they put up on here- thanks Truthfinder!
If I was at a mall and thought that I saw a child that looked like Caylee I would contact security.
I would also take a photo of the person the child was with.
I would also follow them out the door and get a liscense plate number if security did not pay me any attention.
If I had Caylee in my possesion
I would not take her to a mall
I would not take her to McDonalds
I would not take her anywhere
except:
KIDBLINDERS BOOTH
and drop her off and then claim a huge reward. Doh, she just showed up on my doorstep and I thought maybe I should bring her here. I don’t have any idea where she came from.
Sherry C and caryn,
I think Tim Miller is the only one that came to this case with truly good intentions. He believed he could find Caylee. The rest of them………..not so sure.
I know that Padilla wasn’t an unknown when he entered the case but it certainly has given him MORE notoriety. Now there are rumors of a TV or cable deal for Padilla. I question the motives behind all of these crazies, not just Padilla.
I think they are all chasing the almighty $$$.
I was just looking in the documents and discovery section. Did they not release an interview with Ryan Pasley? I thought they did, but I don’t see it. If anyone canhelp me open my eyes, I’d appreciate it.
BJ- unfortunately, I tend to agree with your synopsis above. And I didn’t know who Leonard Padilla was before Caylee’s disappearance, but I sure know who he is now!!!
Interesting little chat for kidblinders;
Dennis and Sherry talk about visiting Casey boyfriend back in August. Why?
informationrequested.chatango.com/
happy Saturday!
Just wanted say that I don’t think I will ever understand how or why George went to work the day be picked that car up.
Good question, BJ, concerning LP’s poly. I thought it was going to be done last Wenesday. Haven’t heard if it got done and what the results were, so I am thinking it wasn’t even necessary anymore. Perhaps something was found in one of the searches that makes taking the poly moot.
Tracy,
I think George went to work because Cindy told him to in order to get him the heck out of the house and because he does everything she tells him to.
He knew…she knew and she could cover it up better than him and so she stayed behind to figure it out while he went to work.
She might have said to him…’Get the hell out of here or I will call Nigeria and have them take your head off!
Happy Saturday is right- thanks, Tracy.
DQ- where did you find that chat thing? Is that supposed to be a chat room hosted by KFN??
Tracy, plus I think that was his second or third day on the job, and considering all their money issues, he’d listen to Cindy on telling him to go to work. He wouldn’t want to risk losing his new job, I think.
caryn,
websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71383
Can’t find the interview with Ryan yet but her is a live few second clip
can’t post the real link name or it will be moderated. this should get you there anyway.
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NeJame Quits As Anthony Attorney
Stalker Sentenced to Death
Lake Mary Dance Instructor Sentenced
Astronauts Complete Spacewalk 2
Happy Birthday! ISS Is 10-Years-Old
FLA’s Grad Rate Rising
Astronaut: Losing Tool Bag Was A Mistake
Survey: Floridians To Reduce Holiday Spending
UCF Economist Examines Detroit
Good Golly! Good Gas Prices!
Casey Anthony Hearings Set
Man Convicted Of Murder 27 Years Ago Gets Out
Casey Anthony Countersues ‘Nanny’
NBA: Magic 103 Raptors 90
Florida Tourism Slouched Through Third Quarter
The ‘Auto Nation’ Needs Some Help
Teacher Avoids Jail Time in Tryst
I-4 Choked
Youth Survey: Pot Tops
Space Walk Marred By Lost Tool Bag
Astronauts Unpack Aboard ISS
NBA: Magic 90 Bobcats 85
Bounty Hunter To Resume Caylee Search
Bounty Hunter Told to Stop Searching for Caylee
Hoops: Gators Handle Bradley
NFL: Dolphins 17 Oakland 15
NFL: Titans 24 Jags 14
NFL: Bucs 19 Vikings 13
Man In Wheelchair Robs Bank
NBA: Magic 102 Mavericks 100
A Day in the Life of Casey Anthony
Gators Open With 80-58 Win
Celebrity Bounty Hunter Faces Spotlight in Caylee Case
Second Murder Trial, Same Verdict
First Fuzzy Photos Of Planets Outside Solar System
Long-Lost Lunar Photos Released
Shuttle Docks With ISS
Teen Pleads No Contest In Fatal Homeless Beating
Police: No Evidence Found In Caylee Anthony Case
Economy Impacts Malls
NBA: Magic 109 Thunder 92
Everglades Restoration Deal Unveiled
Female Student Shot, Killed
Sink Urges Special Session For Budget Deficit
Spokesman, Anthony Family Part Ways
NASA Clears Shuttle Endeavour For Friday Launch
Fat Kids Found To Have Arteries of 45-Year-Olds
Humanist Holiday Ads Say Just Be Good
Bounty Hunter Holds Vigil for Caylee
Cold Front Could Thwart Shuttle Launch
Students Plead No Contest to MySpace Threats
Endeavour Countdown Begins
Caylee Anthony Search Comes Up Dry
Drifter Gets 55 Years In Torture-Slay Case
NBA: Portland 106 Orlando 99
NASA: Phoenix Mars Mission Has Ended
Zeigler Issues Recall Of Hot Dogs
World’s Ugliest Dog Dies
Gag Order Hearing Delayed In Anthony Murder Case
Cypress Gardens To Close For 4 Months
Gas Prices Plummet
NFL: Dolphins 21 Seahawks 19
NFL: Jags 38 Lions 14
Still No Sign of Missing Toddler Caylee Anthony
NCAAF: Gators 42 Vanderbilt 14
Orlando Woman Arrested For Taking Baby
NBA: Magic 108 Wizards 81
NCAAF: So. Miss. 17 UCF 6
Claim: Cindy Anthony Threatens Website Owner
Crackdown Fear Leads To Gun Sales Boom
The Search Is On For Caylee Anthony
Disney Net Slips as Slump Hits Home
NBA: Magic 98 Sixers 88
Massive Search For Caylee Anthony Planned
Death For Casey Anthony Not ‘Off The Table’..Yet
Slain Corrections Officer Not Wearing Body Alarm
Love Wins Final PGA Tour Event Of The Year
Documents Show Casey Anthony Lied
Women Show Pity for Casey Anthony with Cash
Not Totally Blue: FLA Bans Gay Marriage
PGA Tour Travels To Lake Buena Vista
Paloma Downgraded
Rush: ‘I Am Ready For Battle !’
Recount May Be Needed For Amendment 3
Judge Agrees With Casey Anthony
Photographer Who Took LBJ’s Swearing-in Photo Dies
AUDIO: A man who once called himself a friend of Casey Anthony spoke Thursday about the 22-year-old mother.
by Rozzie Franco and Alan McBride, 540 WFLA/FNN
ORLANDO, FLA. — Ryan Paysley’s words may not have been the kind of support Anthony desires.
He said he believes her daughter, Caylee Anthony is dead.
PAYSLEY SOUNDBYTE: “Knowing Casey, I would say that it was an accident,” Paysley said, “As far as how it went down, I can almost guarantee you that it was an accident and that she got nervous, scared, and didn’t know what to do, and she did something with her.”
PAYSLEY SOUNDBYTE: Paysley claimed not to be surprised by allegations that his former best friend has been dishonest about the situation from the outset. He said over the course of the last four or five years it seems that everything she has told him has “turned out be a lie.”
These are strong words from someone who claimed to be Anthony’s friend, but he said that over “the course of all this, I just lost the drive to defend her.”
Paysley also said that he believes Anthony thought she could live without anyone knowing her daughter was missing and was buying herself time because she “didn’t want to face the facts.”
This is whaat I meant to copy and paste. I messed up on the above post. Sorry…
ORLANDO, FLA. — Ryan Paysley’s words may not have been the kind of support Anthony desires.
He said he believes her daughter, Caylee Anthony is dead.
PAYSLEY SOUNDBYTE: “Knowing Casey, I would say that it was an accident,” Paysley said, “As far as how it went down, I can almost guarantee you that it was an accident and that she got nervous, scared, and didn’t know what to do, and she did something with her.”
PAYSLEY SOUNDBYTE: Paysley claimed not to be surprised by allegations that his former best friend has been dishonest about the situation from the outset. He said over the course of the last four or five years it seems that everything she has told him has “turned out be a lie.”
These are strong words from someone who claimed to be Anthony’s friend, but he said that over “the course of all this, I just lost the drive to defend her.”
Paysley also said that he believes Anthony thought she could live without anyone knowing her daughter was missing and was buying herself time because she “didn’t want to face the facts.”
Thanks so much, BJ. I really appreciate it!
I just got moderated for saying that I didn’t mean to copy and paste that LONG comment. Don’t know if this post will go through either. I don’t know what’s up all the moderation lately.
Caryn~
Annie Downing and Dante Salati are both listed on the witness list and neither interview has been released. The same goes for Ryan Pasley. Odd, huh?
Be sure when you are looking that you spell Rayan’s name correctly. I have seen:
Pasley
Paysley
Paysly
Don’t know which one is correct
RYAN’S….not Rayan”s…..
Hi Indy- I am thinking Annie definitely knows something of great significance. I mean, there’s some incriminating stuff in the interviews they have released, so Annie’s interview must be something. Dante & Annie both lived at Sawgrass, right? I am so curious about Dante, b/c he just doesn’t seem to be such a key player in Casey’s life, which makes me wonder what he possibly might know!
On the witness list it is spelled Pasley but there are so many mistakes in that witness list.
Here is Dante’s
docstoc.com/docs/2419750/Casey-Anthony-Dante-Salati-Transcripts
can’t use the ww—// or i can’t post the link
BJ, about the moderation thing, it’s probably just a bug. So many poeple seem to be having problems lately. Plus, they might be trying to be etxra careful checking out what your user name posts, so no one else takes advantage of you like when you and Elaine were impersonated.
hehe….that was funny BJ.
BJ- you are so good with finding the info- thank you!
I love searching
Caryn~I’ve thought about this and sickeningly tried to put myself in Casey’s shoes…..If I were in her position, knowing that my child is dead whether with intent or by accident and I’m in a panic, who would I call if I called anyone at all. I would call my very best long time friend (which would be Annie). I may tell her exactly what happened and get her advice or I may call her and hypothetically ask “what would you do if you needed to get rid of a body”. I think she said something to Annie, even if it wasn’t the whole story or the truth, I think she said something. And then Annie told Dante. I’m not sure what Ryan’s connection would be other than that he is also a very long time friend. Wonder if any of the three drives a small green truck?
There is a problem with posting links lately. If you post one just leave off the w- – - and the .’s and the /’s and it usually goes through. I wonder when the new secure blog will start
Tim Miller had the Psychic Investigators John & Carla look back on his daughter’s death , why don’t they just get these 2 down there and help with fiding her, they are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
I heard that the green truck may have belonged to Lee’s room mate but don’t know if that has been confirmed or not.
justme, on November 22nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm Said:
Tim Miller had the Psychic Investigators John & Carla look back on his daughter’s death , why don’t they just get these 2 down there and help with fiding her, they are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
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Write to TES and suggest it.
ok i have a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE question guys***
In the original Casey A. interregation tapes she keeps saying that her friend.. I forget his name, was the one who introduced her to “Zanny”..and that his daughter is also babysat by “zanny”…….Who is this friend??????? has the police investigated this? have they contacted that friend? and if yes what did he say????
Thanks
It was Jeff Hopkins and it was his “son” that Casey said the nanny babysat for but he doesn’t have a son.
BJ~Is Annie’s there as well? I wasn’t able to find one for Dante! Thanx!!
Jeff Hopkins:
daliagirl33.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/nancy-grace-jeff-hopkins/
Annie’s interview hasn’t been released.
What about Mark Hawkins interview?
I couldn’t find his interview but copied and pasted this:
Well, in Casey Anthony`s world, it`s something, I have to tell you. And she was at one time apparently planning to make a trip to see a Marine person, a person in the Marine Corps by the name of Mark Hawkins, and basically, she kept texting him from the 16th of June, feverishly, basically, I have something to tell you, and you may not like it.
And it came down to the point, she said in her text, her e-mail messages and on phone calls. that her mother, Cindy, and brother, Lee, knew what she was going to tell him. But she wanted to take that trip out to California to 29 Palms to tell him in person. We don`t know really what that is. He at one time — Mark Hawkins at one time was a security guard at Universal Studios, where Casey allegedly worked at one time.
humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/emails-from-mark-hawkins/
Here is some more on Mark Hawkins…..some good and some bad…..from people that knew him.
Nap time~chat with you all later.
bbl….have to go and hose off my patio b4 the rain starts again
WHAT ABOUT FBI INTERVIEWS WITH LEE???? CANT WE SEE THOSE ALSO, AND WHAT ABOUT AMY, TONY ETC… HOW CAN THEY GIVE US SOME AND NOT ALL. GGRRRRR I WANT IT ALL.
TONI,
docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy—Statement
docstoc.com/docs/2447600/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-Interview-July-16-Released-Nov-06-08
docstoc.com/docs/1641627/Anthony-Lee—Statement
docstoc.com/docs/1549131/Lee
TONI,
May be you were talking about LIVE interviews. What I sent links to might not be what you wanted.
Rico234
Zak – I googled phone numbers: Capt. Frank Bourgeois office phone is (352) 666-6234
jailhouse visitor is Patrick Bourgeois
Patrick = Ric
letter O on tellie is 6
Rico is Pat(ric)k Bourgeois
Rico234 is (352) 666-6234
Regarding Casey’s remark about not finding Caylee’s clothes, my heart breaks at the thought of that little girl being disposed of without her clothes. Why would Casey remove her clothing? Why did she have to take away every shred of dignity from the child? For some reason this really, really bothers me and makes me sad.
Angela,
I made the same remark the other day when I first heard that. It makes me want to throw up.
On one hand Casey says that she was knocked to the ground and Caylee was taken to teach her (Casey) a lesson; on the other hand Casey said that they (searchers) hadn’t found the clothes that she was wearing. Casey sounds like she is taunting LE and the searchers. We all know what happened. Casey, who is the nanny, killed Caylee. Casey might as well confess NOW, because her stories are conflicting and will convict her anyway.
Me too BJ. I can’t help thinking of Caylee when I look at my little guy…almost 3…it’s so heartbreaking…they are so precious at that age….and I have to shut my mind off thinking about it sometimes, or I would go crazy.
I don’t think casey removed caylees clothes. I think she was just yaking. People often make offhanded remarks with nothing behind them.
Just my 2 cents.
Did the “nanny” tell Casey that she was going to take Caylee’s clothes off and throw them somewhere when she kidnapped Caylee??……..so whoever should look one place for the clothes and another place for Caylee??? Gimme a break.
Unless Casey and C are ready to tell the truth they should both shut up
I have to correct myself:
I have previously insisted that noone actually stated they saw maggots. The towyard guy referenced maggots, but never actually said he saw maggots and other than Cindy’s ranting, there was nothing else…….until George’s FBI interview was released………ok now I feel better.
ok When they first were interagating Casey A. She kept saying that her friend introduced her to Zanny and that he recommended Zanny for caylee because she babysat his own daughter, but from what I understand when theylocated him n asked him about that he didnt know what they were talking about!! he doesnt and never knew a zenaida…what does cindy a, have to say about that ..its just crazy to me to hear her say it so confidently n sound so convincing n honest in the tapes n the guy never even new Zanny..she must be pretty slick because she hid the body so well nooooooooooo one is able to find it but what i dont get is she was smart enough to hide little caylee’s body were no one can find it, not the cops, bounty hunters, experts, ect.. noone but dumb enough to just str8 out lie like that!! like the cops werent going to follow thru and check her statements it just doesnt make sense.. I think she new they were going to find out she was lying and she did it on purpose I just cant understand why.
Nadia,
Jeff Hopkins:
daliagirl33.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/nancy-grace-jeff-hopkins/
Nadia…she’s a hummer.
Afternoon all. Looks like a slow news day.
2shadow ….maybe Casey got rid of extra clothes…. it seems they were pretty much living out of their car maybe she disposed of the extra clothes in one place and the body in the dumpster ?
Arleen———–Could be. But I don’t see a reason to dispose of her little clothes………….hey favorite doll and her backpak were still in the car. Soooooooo the reality is that no one really knows what went on surrounding the baby in june-July. So sad and sickening.
Casey never once asked LE OR anyone to “help” find Caylee. She is a lousy actress…..one would think that she would at least try to express concern or dismay when speaking with LE. So peculiar!
The whole family is so perverse that it makes my stomach hurt.
~~~arleen, on November 22nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm Said:
2shadow ….maybe Casey got rid of extra clothes…. it seems they were pretty much living out of their car maybe she disposed of the extra clothes in one place and the body in the dumpster ?
OKAY SO DID ANYONE JUST SEE THE NEWS ON NANCY GRACE. HENRY LEE IS WORKING FOR CASEY DEFENSE. THAT IS NOT GOOD BECAUSE HE WILL SHOW REASONABLE DOUBT. HE IS ONE OF THE TOP FORENSIC GUYS OUT THERE. IF THEY CAN SHOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SIGHTINGS AND THAT THE DECOMPOSITION MAY OR MAY NOT BE HUMAN THEN SHE WILL GET OFF SCOTT FREE! THIS IS NOT GOOD!
NANCY GAVE A GOOD POINT ALOS, THE ANTHONY FAMILY SHOULD ALL VOLUNTEER TO GIVE A POLYGRAPH THEN THE PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE CAN MOVE FOWARD FROM THERE! WHY WASNT THAT ASKED OF THEM AND WHY DIDNT THEY VOLUNTEER????
Since she drove around long enough for a body to decompose, the question is what triggered her getting rid of the body?
Would it be the smell was bothering her? and she wanted to keep driving?
OR
Was it because she ran out of gas and then would have to bring someone back to the car with her?
Since apparently the smell was overwhelming even after the car was in tow yard for 2 weeks it has to be the latter. Which probably means that she threw Caylee in the dumpster in the Amscot parking lot.
I think this case is much more simple but because of Casey’s many problems with lying etc. has been way over complicated.
Just thought of something.
George with Casey were near the open trunk of car on the 24th? but George does not smell anything right? and still Casey does not want him near the trunk?
So maybe she didn’t drive around with her in the car at that point but i do believe she was dead then already.
Maybe Casey didn’t want ****george to look in the trunk *****because it was full of purchases and didn’t want to be qustioned about where the $$ came from.
I can’t imagine her NOT jumping to go to the trunk ****immediately**** when George said he neded to get something from it.
conyinuing from 9:31
The last sentenance should have ended with >>>>
………..if there were any ’signs’ of Caylee on it.
2shado, on November 22nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm Said:
Maybe Casey didn’t want ****george to look in the trunk *****because it was full of purchases and didn’t want to be qustioned about where the $$ came from.
I can’t imagine her NOT jumping to go to the trunk ****immediately**** when George said he neded to get something from it.
et has returned after 1 1/2 months of pc being down lol
I wonder if Gail St. John, and her group, found anything? I think she is leaving today.
She used a shovel for something…she didn’t need that to throw Caylee’s body in a dumpster.
yea jeanne she def. is!! lol and thanks BJ =D
BJ
omg I just saw the video, again thankQ .. all i have to say is WTF!!! omggggg and what excuse does cindy have for that??? wow she cant justify that one.. I really hope she gets the death penalty
Glad you found it
Sometimes by the time I find a link to post for someone that is asking they are long gone. I’m never sure if they see later it or not.
Vanilla: What triggered her to get rid of the body… hmm maybe she rans out of vehicles to borrow (with or without permission)
maybe she did borrow the shovel to break the locks on the shed, in order to get the gas, in order to burn the evidence.
[...] Open Thread The Nancy Grace Show 11/21 [...]
Purse in the car? I’ve always maintained she had a first care scenario where she going to plead car jacking. Didn’t work though because I suspect the Amscot people saw her, and she had to double quick call the boyfriend or whatever she ended up doing in the end.
She’s winging it.
the squirrel was even added to the picture, but there is no evidence of one
Could the brother Lee be Caylee’s real dad?
omg did you guys hear about the Email btw C.A and Garrison??? is it true???!! I can not believe it, no wayyyyyyyyyyyyy i just ..omg no way it has to be a rumor!
no I didnt see the email …what was it about?
it says that garrisin was emailing cindy anthoy asking her why she have FBI the wrong hairbrush an she replied that she didnt lie she just didnt go upstairs and get the hairbrush that caylee use to use
basically tampering with evidence!!! this is just way nuts
It might be a good move by the police to arrest Cindy. Think about it, if George was all alone without Cindy to “manage” this tale of lies I think he would crack. Not only does he not want to be Prosecuted but I think he’s tired of all the lies.
Lee is another story. I believe he actually helped Casey cover up evidence (buried the clothes or with held information) somehow and is also afraid of getting caught. Wow, what a lovely family.
I wonder how Casey acted today when the Police found the remains of a child near her house?? I would love to know!